I was long time wondering if I should send it to lkml or not...
Please forgive me...
On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Joe wrote:
> > > > Upgrade binutils to get rid of them.
> > >
> > > Wrong. The warnings are a feature of new binutils.
> > And unfortunately removing the warnings in some cases means the code wont
> > actually even build with older binutils. So ignore them for now
> Thank You, also let me say thank you to all of those who gave me an
> answer rather than giving me grief for making a mistake in my initial post.
> I had no idea that .config files had gotten so large and the mail
> client I am using does not show the size of attachments very clearly. Yes I
> should have checked first, but I did not think anything of it. In my normal
Ok, I understand.
> day to day work transferring 5 or 10 megs through interoffice email is is
> standard operating procedures. So a 12k attachment to me is a tiny file.
> I was unaware that 12k was to large or an issue for the linux-kernel mailing
This is your point of view. Try to understand that l-k mailing list is
international list. In some countries this is not standard operating
procedure. In some countries most people connect to Internet by dial-up
and pay high (!) phone bills. One of these countries is Poland.
And remember that in these countries also may be some talented developers.
> I also had no idea that it went 3 times as I did a file exit and the
> program prompted me 3 times to send the mail, so I thought that it did not
> get sent. The program also did not exit. If someone had politely informed
> me that this occurred I would have apologized at the start, however the
> first 3 responded I got were rather flamish, unprofessional, rude and
This is once again your point of wiev.
Try to understand what others think and feel.
I was a little bit angry seeing this question again. I have seen it
hundreds times before. That's why I pointed you to archives.
It may have sounded rude, I *apologize*.
Also notice that by saying that these answers were rude, immature etc.
you gain *nothing*, you are doing *exactly* what they (me included!)
have done! You are always trying to "win"? You haven't noticed that
your answers sounded *exactly* like these unprofessional emails?
Here is example - it is your response for my immature email:
| > Not as bad as sending 3 copies of 34kB message instead of
| > reading
| > linux-kernel mail archives :|
| I think that it is even worse to send a reply like this instead
| of pointing me to where the answer is! I did look in the
| archives for may and saw nothing. Searched Linux Doc project and
| found howto's on assembly.
| Let me just say thanks for nothing!
It is not intended to start flame war! I just wanted to show you that
you are insonsistent. I said unpleasant thing once (and now I
apologized) and I got three unpleasant things from you.
Does netiquette only obligate others, not you?
> The company I work for currently has a group that is testing Linux,
> FreeBSD, and Solaris as server operating systems. And NO we are not
> considering Windows NT as one of the companies that we just picked up has 8
> NT servers that they reboot daily. Needless to say we are converting to
> Solaris which we know is a proven platform and our software runs on this
> Part of our company currently runs FreeBSD, some runs Linux and most of
> the other machines run Solaris.
> There has been much talk about converting some more of our systems to
> Linux. I have been asked on numerous occasions what I think. After
> receiving some of the responses that I received this past week, I question
> weather the Linux community is actually ready for large scale acceptance.
> If Linux continues to take on large scale acceptance, this and other list
> like this will continue to get stupid newbie questions, repeated mail cause
> a mail program does not act the way it is expected and posts that are to
> large, along with other problems like that. Why? Because you never know who
> is on the other end of the email. It could be any company investigating or
> involved with Linux. If you upset that person enough a driver or card spec
> or some other software, may not end up being released and you and the rest
> of the Linux community may suffer as a result. The worst thing that a
> person on this list can do is to flame someone else for making a mistake.
You really haven't seen flames in your life ;)
But yes it's true.
> What bothers me most is that some of those flamish responses had
> Linuxcare at the bottom of their email. This makes Linuxcare look line
> "Linux-don't-care". Weather or not they actually worked for Linuxcare is
> irrelevant it makes Linux as a community look bad.
> If you are going to spend the time to answer a post, at least answer the
> post positively and politely. Remember that netiquette is a 2 way street and
> there are human beings at the ends of these emails and people do make
Also remember that human beings sometimes get angry and send impolite
emails. As you said people do make mistakes.
-- Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bkz>
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