Just a quick followup to this, which is still a near show-stopper issue
for me.
This is easy to reproduce for me if I run updatedb locally, and then run
updatedb on a remote machine that's scanning an NFS-mounted filesystem
from the original local machine. Instant kswapd saturation, especially
on large filesystems.
Doing updatedb on NFS-mounted filesystems also seems to cause kswapd to
peg on the NFS-client side as well.
I recently realized that slocate (at least on RH6.2 w/ 2.4 kernels) does
not seem to properly detect NFS when provided "-f nfs"... Urgh.
Also something I noticed in slab_info (other info below):
inode_cache 369188 1027256 480 59716 128407 1 : 124 62
dentry_cache 256380 705510 128 14946 23517 1 : 252 126
buffer_head 46961 47800 96 1195 1195 1 : 252 126
That seems like a TON of {dentry,inode}_cache on a 1GB (HIMEM) machine.
I'd try 10_vm-19 but it doesn't apply cleanly for me.
Thanks for any input or ports of 10_vm-19 to 2.4.17-pre6. ;)
-- Ken. brownfld@irridia.comtotal: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 1054011392 900526080 153485312 0 67829760 174866432 Swap: 2149548032 581632 2148966400 MemTotal: 1029308 kB MemFree: 149888 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 66240 kB Cached: 170376 kB SwapCached: 392 kB Active: 202008 kB Inactive: 40380 kB HighTotal: 131008 kB HighFree: 30604 kB LowTotal: 898300 kB LowFree: 119284 kB SwapTotal: 2099168 kB SwapFree: 2098600 kB
Mem: 1029308K av, 886144K used, 143164K free, 0K shrd, 66240K buff Swap: 2099168K av, 568K used, 2098600K free 170872K cached
On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 07:15:02AM -0600, Ken Brownfield wrote: | When updatedb kicked off on my 2.4.16 6-way Xeon 4GB box this morning, I | had an unfortunate flashback: | | 5:02am up 2 days, 1 min, 59 users, load average: 5.66, 4.86, 3.60 | 741 processes: 723 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 14 stopped | CPU states: 0.2% user, 77.3% system, 0.0% nice, 22.3% idle | Mem: 3351664K av, 3346504K used, 5160K free, 0K shrd, 498048K buff | Swap: 1052248K av, 282608K used, 769640K free 2531892K cached | | PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND | 2117 root 15 5 580 580 408 R N 0 99.9 0.0 17:19 updatedb | 2635 kb 12 0 1696 1556 1216 R 0 99.9 0.0 4:16 smbd | 2672 root 17 10 4212 4212 492 D N 0 94.7 0.1 1:39 rsync | 2609 root 2 -20 1284 1284 672 R < 0 81.2 0.0 4:02 top | 9 root 9 0 0 0 0 SW 0 80.7 0.0 42:50 kswapd | 22879 kb 9 0 11548 6316 1684 S 0 11.8 0.1 7:33 smbd | | Under varied load I'm not seeing the kswapd issue, but it looks like | updatedb combined with one or two samba transfers does still reproduce | the problem easily, and adding rsync or NFS transfers to the mix makes | kswapd peg at 99%. | | I noticed because I was trying to do kernel patches and compiles using a | partition NFS-mounted from this machine. I guess it sometimes pays to | be up at 5am... | | Unfortunately it's difficult for me to reboot this machine to update the | kernel (59 users) but I will try to reproduce the problem on a separate | machine this weekend or early next week. And I don't have profiling on, | so that will have to wait as well. :-( | | Andrea, do you have a patch vs. 2.4.16 of your original solution to this | problem that I could test out? I'd rather just change one thing at a | time rather than switching completely to an -aa kernel. | | Grrrr! | | Thanks much, | -- | Ken. | brownfld@irridia.com | | | On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 06:50:50AM +0000, Linus Torvalds wrote: | | In article <20011119235422.F10597@asooo.flowerfire.com>, | | Ken Brownfield <brownfld@irridia.com> wrote: | | >kswapd goes up to 5-10% CPU (vs 3-6) but it finishes without issue or | | >apparent interactivity problems. I'm keeping it in while( 1 ), but it's | | >been predictable so far. | | > | | >3-10 is a lot better than 99, but is kswapd really going to eat that | | >much CPU in an essentially allocation-less state? | | | | Well, it's obviously not allocation-less: updatedb will really hit on | | the dcache and icache (which are both in the NORMAL zone only, which is | | why Andrea asked for it), and obviously your Oracle load itself seems to | | be happily paging stuff around, which causes a lot of allocations for | | page-ins. | | | | It only _looks_ static, because once you find the proper "balance", the | | VM numbers themselves shouldn't change under a constant load. | | | | We could make kswapd use less CPU time, of course, simply by making the | | actual working processes do more of the work to free memory. The total | | work ends up being the same, though, and the advantage of kswapd is that | | it tends to make the freeing slightly more asynchronous, which helps | | throughput. | | | | The _disadvantage_ of kswapd is that if it goes crazy and uses up all | | CPU time, you get bad results ;) | | | | But it doesn't sound crazy in your load. I'd be happier if the VM took | | less CPU, of course, but for now we seem to be doing ok. | | | | Linus | | - | | To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in | | the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org | | More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html | | Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ | - | To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in | the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org | More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html | Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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