AMD760MPX: bogus chispset ? (was PROBLEM: sound is stutter, sizzle with lasts kernel releases)

From: xi (
Date: Fri Jul 11 2003 - 11:54:57 EST


I wrote some month ago about a problem with last kernel release. The
thread is accessible here:
To sum-up the problem: I have a tyan tiger MPX with AMD762 and AMD768
chipsets. With latest kernel releases, every time I listen music and
that something appens on my screen (moving a window, watching a movie)
the sound stutter. The problem occurs whatever the soundcard and the
graphic card is. But the problem didn't occured with older kernel
releases like 2.4.8. I received tons of advices, but none was working.

Now I have done some investigations, and I think I have found the
problem: It has appeared between kernel-2.4.18-pre9 and kernel-2.4.18-rc1
If I am not wrong, between these two versions, Alan Cox did a change in
drivers/pci/quirks.c and this is this change which cause the problem.

*** Before the change we got:

static void __init quirk_amd_ordering(struct pci_dev *dev)
           u32 pcic;

           pci_read_config_dword(dev, 0x42, &pcic);
                   pcic |= 2;
                   printk(KERN_WARNING "BIOS disabled PCI ordering
compliance, so we enabled it again.\n");
                   pci_write_config_dword(dev, 0x42, pcic);

*** After the change we got:

    * Following the PCI ordering rules is optional on the AMD762. I'm not
    * sure what the designers were smoking but let's not inhale...
    * To be fair to AMD, it follows the spec by default, its BIOS people
    * who turn it off!
static void __init quirk_amd_ordering(struct pci_dev *dev)
        u32 pcic;
        pci_read_config_dword(dev, 0x4C, &pcic);
                pcic |= 6;
                printk(KERN_WARNING "BIOS failed to enable PCI standards compliance,
fixing this error.\n");
                pci_write_config_dword(dev, 0x4C, pcic);
                pci_read_config_dword(dev, 0x84, &pcic);
                pcic |= (1<<23); /* Required in this mode */
                pci_write_config_dword(dev, 0x84, pcic);

Continuing my investigations, I have looked at the AMD762 datasheet. The
new code which is intented to follow the PCI standards causes my
problem! In fact with this code the system becomes completly slow, quite

I like the comment for the fix, but I have an other version :-)
I think AMD didn't follow the PCI specs by default (and no it's not bios
people who turned it off, it's AMD!) because their chipsed is bogus and
didn't work well (at all) following the specs !

I may be wrong but I don't think so. What do you think?

As for the fix, I propose to remove the quirk_amd_ordering function, or
at least allow to don't use it. In fact the old kernels (before
2.4.18-rc1) worked fine for me because they didn't contained this
workaround. Old kernels contained a workaround, but it was IMHO false
because it changed reserved and probably unassigned registers (0x42).
And note that due to this problem, I am using kernel-2.4.8 for about a
year now, with 6 of the 7 PCI and AGP slots used, and I didn't noticed
any instability.

I hope I was clear, and I really would like to see this problem solved.

                                        Xavier IZARD

P.S. I have also tested the 2.4.22-pre4 kernel, but as it contains the
same code, the problem is still here.

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