Re: Do I need kswapd if I don't have swap?

From: Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
Date: Mon Nov 24 2003 - 02:38:41 EST



Can you try 2.6?

AFAIK 2.4 has no callpath to return ENOMEM to user space. (probably in couple of months I will reach this issue on my systems and test it completely).

kswapd is universal process to write-out information to disk - and in Linux pages has no any difference as kswapd concerned. It just dumbly write them out. If you will disable kswapd - files modified by mean of mmap() most likely will never be written back to disk. (Here I am (most likely) wrong - probably some of the vm gurus can correct me). That's actually why Linux has problems with disk cache and disk cache can easily swap the task doing i/o.

If you want to work-around this situation - enable OOM. it will just kill your process instead.


David Wuertele wrote:
Using 2.4.18 on my 32MB RAM embedded MIPS system, malloc() goes
bye-bye:

/* Malloc as much as possible, then return */
#include <stdio.h>
#define UNIT 1024 /* one kilobyte */
int main ()
{
unsigned int j, totalmalloc=0, totalwrote=0, totalread=0;
while (1) {
unsigned char *buf = (unsigned char *) malloc (UNIT);
if (!buf) return 0;
totalmalloc += UNIT; fprintf (stderr, "%u ", totalmalloc);
for (j=0; j<UNIT; j++) buf[j] = j % 256;
totalwrote += UNIT; fprintf (stderr, "%u ", totalwrote);
for (j=0; j<UNIT; j++) if (buf[j] != (j % 256)) return -1;
totalread += UNIT; fprintf (stderr, "%u\n", totalread);
}
}

I expected this program to malloc most of my embedded MIPS's 32MB of
system RAM, then eventually return with a -1 or a -2. Unfortunately,
it hangs having finally printed:

M26916864
W26916864
R26916864

The malloc call isn't even returning. What could explain that?

I don't have swap space configured, and I notice several kernel
threads that I figure might be assuming I have swap. For example:

3 root S [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
4 root S [kswapd]
5 root S [bdflush]
6 root S [kupdated]
7 root S [mtdblockd]

Do I need any of these if I don't have swap? Are there any special
kernel configs I should be doing if I don't have swap?



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