Re: PWC issue

[Randy.Dunlap]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:12:42 -0700 Greg KH wrote:

| On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 08:11:00AM -0700, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
| > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:19:19 -0700 Greg KH wrote:
| > 
| > | On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 10:50:05AM -0700, Adam J. Richter wrote:
| > | > 
| > | > 	By the way, I have a long running dispute with Greg K-H
| > | > about his refusal so far to remove replace the GPL incompatible
| > | > firmware in certain USB serial drivers with such a user level
| > | > loading mechanism.  Go figure.
| > | 
| > | Send me a patch to do so, and I will apply it (must include userspace
| > | files so that hotplug can load them properly.)
| > | 
| > | The last time we went around about this I rejected it as we were in a
| > | stable kernel series.  As that is now not true, I'm open to the patch.
| > 
| > Which part is now not true?
| 
| The "stable" part.

I guess I'm still confused by some of what I consider contradictory
remarks by Linus at the kernel summit, and the lack of a summary of
that particular kernel summit session (other than on lwn.net).

I think that we have only a stable kernel and not a development
kernel series now, and that's a loss.  But it's a loss either way
that we toss & turn it...

| Actually in thinking about it some more, we should offer up both options
| for at least 6 months, with a warning that the in-kernel stuff is going
| to be deleted on a specific date.  That gives everyone time to convert
| their userspace utilities to use the new firmware download code.
| 
| Sound good?

Some bounded time would be good, yes.  Would have been good for pwc also,
although Nemosoft has had 4 years to move the kernel decompression to
userspace afaik, so it seems that he has taken way too long to get
that done.

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~Randy
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