Re: patches inline in mail

[Jesper Juhl]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, George Anzinger wrote:

> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:14:38 -0700
> From: George Anzinger <george@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Jesper Juhl <juhl-lkml@xxxxxx>
> Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@xxxxxxx>, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@xxxxxxxxxx>,
>     johnstul@xxxxxxxxxx, Ulrich.Windl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, jbarnes@xxxxxxx,
>     linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, libc-alpha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: patches inline in mail
> 
> Jesper Juhl wrote:
> > Unrelated to the CLOCK_PROCESS/THREAD_CPUTIME_ID discussion, just wanted to
> > comment on the 'patches inline vs attached' bit.
> > 
> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, George Anzinger wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, George Anzinger wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please, when sending patches, attach them.  This avoids problems with
> > > > > mailers,
> > > > > on both ends, messing with white space.  They still appear in line, at
> > > > > least in
> > > > > some mailers (mozilla in my case).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The custom on lkml, for Linus and Andrew is to send them inline. I also
> > > > prefer them inline. Will try to remember sending attachments when
> > > > sending a
> > > > patch to you.
> > > 
> > > I think they WILL be inline as well as attached if you attach them.  The
> > > difference is that in both presentations neither mailer will mess with
> > > white
> > > space.  This means that long lines will not be wrapped and tabs vs space
> > > will
> > > not be changed.
> > > 
> > 
> > Not all mailers show attachments inline. Mailers that do usually depend on
> > the mimetype of the attachment when choosing to show inline or not. pine (my
> > personal favorite) show attachments with a text/plain and similar mime-type
> > inline, but a not all mailers use that (I see a lot of attached patches on
> > lkml that don't show inline, and that's somewhat annoying).
> 
> So we should make sure that the mailer uses the right mime-type.  I suppose
> that depends on the mailer?
> > 
> > It's also harder to reply and comment on bits of a patch when your mailer
> > does not include attachments inline in a reply (even if it did show them
> > inline while reading the mail).
> > Having to save the patch, open it in a text editor and then cut'n'paste bits
> > of it into the reply mail is a pain. Same goes for having to save & open it
> > in order to read it in the first place.
> 
> We agree.  Still, I have been bitten too many times by misshandled white space
> to trust pure inlineing.  Likewise on picking it up one would usually past it
> in the mail (I suppose) where as the attachment is through the mailer and less
> prone to missing a character.
> 

When I include patches inline in mails I use pine's "Read File" 
functionality. Pressing CTRL+R and then specifying a filename causes pine 
to read the file and place it inline exactely as read from the file. So no 
whitespace damage by cut'n'paste. 
I don't know, but I would suspect that other mailers would have similar 
functionality.??


> The best answer, I think, is attachments that show as inline AND stay that way
> on the reply.
> 
That would be just as fine as plain inline, but I think it'll be difficult 
to find a way to do that that works universally with all mailers.


--
Jesper Juhl


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