Re: RFC: Starting a stable kernel series off the 2.6 kernel

[Bill Davidsen]

Horst von Brand wrote:
> Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 03 Dec 2005, David Ranson wrote:
> >
> > > Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > - support for ipfwadm and ipchains was removed during 2.6
>
>
> > > Surely this one had loads of notice though? I was using iptables with
> > > 2.4 kernels.
>
>
> Sure had. They were scheduled for removal in march, 2005 a long time ago.
>
>
> > So was I. And now what? ipfwadm and ipchains should have been removed
> > from 2.6.0 if 2.6.0 was not to support these.
>
>
> Or in 2.6.10, or 2.6.27, or whatever.
>
>
> >                                              That opportunity was
> > missed, the removal wasn't made up for in 2.6.1, so the stuff has to
> > stick until 2.8.0.
>
>
> Sorry, but the new development model is that there is no "uneven" series
> anymore. Sure, it /might/ open for worldshattering changes, but nothing of
> that sort is remotely in sight right now, so...
>
>
> > > > - devfs support was removed during 2.6
> > >
> > > Did this affect many 'real' users?
>
>
> > This doesn't matter. A kernel that calls itself stable CAN NOT remove
> > features unless they had been critically broken from the beginning. And
> > this level of breakage is a moot point, so removal is not justified.
>
>
> devfs was broken, and very little used.

Perhaps there is a cause and effect relationship? If devfs worked I 
don't see the need for every distro to have it's own udev (or mdev or 
sdev or whatever the flavor is this month).
--
   -bill davidsen (davidsen@xxxxxxx)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
 last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

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