Re: Solaris ZFS on Linux [Was: Re: the " 'official' point of view"expressedby regarding reiser4 inclusion]

From: David Masover
Date: Tue Aug 01 2006 - 23:50:40 EST

Ian Stirling wrote:
David Masover wrote:
David Lang wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, David Masover wrote:

Oh, I'm curious -- do hard drives ever carry enough battery/capacitance to cover their caches? It doesn't seem like it would be that hard/expensive, and if it is done that way, then I think it's valid to leave them on. You could just say that other filesystems aren't taking as much advantage of newer drive features as Reiser :P

there are no drives that have the ability to flush their cache after they loose power.

Aha, so back to the usual argument: UPS! It takes a fraction of a second to flush that cache.

You probably don't actually want to flush the cache - but to write
to a journal.
16M of cache - split into 32000 writes to single sectors spread over
the disk could well take several minutes to write. Slapping it onto
a journal would take well under .2 seconds.
That's a non-trivial amount of storage though - 3J or so, 40mF@12V -
a moderately large/expensive capacitor.

Before we get ahead of ourselves, remember: ~$200 buys you a huge amount of battery storage. We're talking several minutes for several boxes, at the very least -- more like 10 minutes.

But yes, a journal or a software suspend.
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