Re: Oops in 184.108.40.206 running multiple eth bridges
From: Stephen Hemminger
Date: Thu Aug 10 2006 - 19:08:35 EST
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:59:56 +0200
"Peter M" <peter.mdk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The analyzer is a AMD Duron around 1200 MHz and has 128 MB of RAM.
Your trying to squeeze blood from a turnip (not tulip) by trying
to run 8 interfaces at once on that system.
> I can't remember if the crashes only comes when I'm running tcpdumps
> on several bridges at a time. But shouldn't the kernel handle it more
> gracefully if it uses up all the memory?
> analyze-this:~# free
> Unknown HZ value! (91) Assume 100.
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 127280 124800 2480 0 21048 84044
> -/+ buffers/cache: 19708 107572
> Swap: 506036 0 506036
> 2006/8/10, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@xxxxxxxx>:
> > On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:34:22 +0200
> > "Peter M" <peter.mdk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I have built a multi bridge i386 machine with 8 eth devices which
> > > keeps crashing on me.
> > >
> > > Kernel 220.127.116.11
> > >
> > > I'm using a network card with 4 ports (tulip) and 4 r8169 based cards.
> > >
> > > br0: eth0 eth1
> > > br1: eth2 eth3
> > > br2: eth3 eth4
> > > br3: eth5 eth6
> > >
> > > Below crash came when I unplugged a cable on a running bridge. Today I
> > > have had two crashes without touching the cables but didn't get any
> > > usable syslog.
> > >
> > > I have attached a number of info files which might help.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Peter M.
> > Looks like you are running out of memory. You will need more memory
> > to be able to hold all the receive rings data, as well as data in flight.
> > Rough estimate:
> > R8169 := 4 * 256 (ringsize) * 2K
> > Tulip := 4 * 128 * 2K
> > That comes out to 3 Meg in use just being idle. Once you get going
> > it could easily be 3x that.
> > And that is for standard 1500 byte MTU. If you use large packets, you
> > will have problems with memory fragmentation and will probably have
> > to go to a bigger 64 bit machine and even more memory.
The kernel should survive short term memory pressure (it will get noisy),
but you can't survive that way forever. Unless memory is free soon,
it will deadlock itself because some critical operation can't get
You could try reducing the size of the transmit queues, and receive
rings, either with scripts or by modifying the drivers.
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