Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Network receive deadlock prevention for NBD
From: Daniel Phillips
Date: Sun Aug 13 2006 - 16:15:14 EST
Peter Zijlstra wrote:
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 16:54 -0700, David Miller wrote:
People are doing I/O over IP exactly for it's ubiquity and
flexibility. It seems a major limitation of the design if you cancel
out major components of this flexibility.
We're not, that was a bit of my own frustration leaking out; I think
this whole push to IP based storage is a bit silly. I'm just not going
to help the admin who's server just hangs because his VPN key expired.
Running critical resources remotely like this is tricky, and every
hop/layer you put in between increases the risk of something going bad.
The only setup I think even remotely sane is a dedicated network in the
very same room - not unlike FC but cheaper (which I think is the whole
push behind this, eth is cheap)
Indeed. The rest of the corner cases like netfilter, layered protocol and
so on need to be handled, however they do not need to be handled right now
in order to make remote storage on a lan work properly. The sane thing for
the immediate future is to flag each socket as safe for remote block IO or
not, then gradually widen the scope of what is safe. We need to set up an
opt in strategy for network block IO that views such network subsystems as
ipfilter as not safe by default, until somebody puts in the work to make
But really, if you expect to run reliable block IO to Zanzibar over an ssh
tunnel through a firewall, then you might also consider taking up bungie
jumping with the cord tied to your neck.
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