Re: [RFC][PATCH 8/8] SLIM: documentation

From: Serge E. Hallyn
Date: Thu Aug 24 2006 - 09:01:14 EST


Quoting Pavel Machek (pavel@xxxxxx):
> Hi!
>
> > > > +In normal operation, the system seems to stabilize with a roughly
> > > > +equal mixture of SYSTEM, USER, and UNTRUSTED processes. Most
> > >
> > > So you split processes to three classes (why three?), and
> > > automagically move them between classes based on some rules? (What
> > > rules?)
> > >
> > > Like if I'm UNTRUSTED process, I may not read ~/.ssh/private_key? So
> > > files get this kind of labels, too? And it is "mozilla starts as a
> > > USER, but when it accesses first web page it becomes UNTRUSTED"?
> >
> > Processes are not moved from one integrity level to another, but are
> > demoted when they read from a lower integrity level object. By
> > definition sockets, are defined as UNTRUSTED, so reading from a
> > socket demotes the process to UNTRUSTED. (Secrecy is a separate
> > attribute.) In the Mozilla example, /usr/bin/mozilla is defined as
> > SYSTEM, preventing any process with lesser integrity from modifying
> > it. 'level -s' displays the level of the current process or of a
> > given file. For example,
> >
> > [zohar@L3X098X ~]$ level -s /usr/bin/mozilla
> > /usr/bin/mozilla
> > security.slim.level: SYSTEM PUBLIC
> >
> > Both mozilla and firefox-bin are defined as SYSTEM, as soon as the
> > firefox-bin process opens a socket, the process is demoted to
> > UNTRUSTED.
> >
> > I hope this answered some of your questions. We're working on
> > more comprehensive documentation, which we'll post with the next
> > release.
>
> Do you have examples where this security model stops an attack?
>
> Both my mail client and my mozilla will be UNTRUSTED (because of
> network connections, right?) -- so mozilla exploit will still be able
> t osee my mail? Not good. And ssh connects to the net, too, so it will
> not even protect my ~/.ssh/private_key ?

I believe it will read your private_key while at a higher level, then
will be demoted when it access the net.

Is that right?

-serge
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