Re: util-linux: orphan

From: Ian Kent
Date: Thu Dec 28 2006 - 05:29:58 EST

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Theodore Tso wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 08:18:24PM +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> > Frankly, it wasn't always easy to use SeLinux in previous FC
> > releases, but there is huge progress and I think it's much better in
> > FC6.
> I've never tried SELinux, but at one point there were all sorts of
> horror stories that if you enabled SELinux, the moment you installed
> any 3rd party software packages, whether it's Oracle or Websphere or
> some other commercial application program, the application would break
> because of all sorts of SELinux policy violations, and that it
> required an SELinux wizard to configure SELinux policy to enable a 3rd
> party application to actually work correctly. Given that I tried
> enabling SELinux, witnessed things break spectacularly and with no
> hints about how to fix things, I've always had the attitude of "life
> is too short to enable SELinux", and so my limited experience is
> consistent with all of the horror stories that I've heard.

I see the fine grained security of Selinux as a big problem for third
party applications.

It's a big job to make the OS work cleanly with it but the fact is that
many machines need to run significant 3rd party applications. I don't have
first hand experience but I suspect most vendors have tight enough budgets
without adding an Selinux developer and customers usually don't have this
resource either so, by and large, I expect people will just have to
disable it.

I really don't see any solution to this problem either.
Time will tell.

To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
More majordomo info at
Please read the FAQ at