Re: Linux 2.6.21
From: Adrian Bunk
Date: Sat Apr 28 2007 - 19:04:24 EST
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 03:33:39PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > We are already quite good at ignoring bug reports that come through
> > linux-kernel, and it's an _advantage_ of the kernel Bugzilla to see more
> > than 1600 open bugs because this tells how bad we are at handling bugs.
> No, it just shows that bugzilla doesn't matter for most of the kernel.
> Don't say that "bugzilla tells how bad we are at handling bugs". It tells
> how bad *bugzilla* is for handling bugs, nothing more.
> Trying to play politics by pointing to bugzilla is pointless. Bugzilla is
> used for a few subsystems (ACPI seems to use it actively, for example),
> but I doubt most developers use it.
> Would be be good to have a better bug-tracking setup? Yes. But I think it
> takes man-power, and it would take something *fundamentally* better than
Bugzilla has an email interface.
Andrew forwards bugs from Bugzilla to developers.
There might be small room for improvements, but I don't see how
man-power or technology could make a big difference in this area.
> Maybe the new "http://kernelnewbies.org/known_regressions" thing will
> evolve to something worth tracking. Right now, bugzilla isn't it (although
> it can be a useful tracking place for individual bugs, *once* you've found
> and gotten the right developer involved - but that's a huge step that
> bugzilla generally does *not* do for us).
"*once* you've found and gotten the right developer involved" is the
real problem, not how to track bugs.
And not only a developer active in this area, more important a
developer who knows the subsystem/driver involved *and is willing
to work on bug reports*.
*This* is *the* problem.
And no change in bug tracking will help with this problem.
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
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