Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] PM: Disable _request_firmware before hibernation/suspend

[Pavel Machek]

Hi!

> > > > What exactly is the problem we see here? The timeout of the firmware loader?
> > > > What goes wrong with frozen userspace, usually there is only a netlink
> > > > message sent from the kernel, which should be received and handled
> > > > just fine when userspace is running again.
> > > 
> > > Driver calls request_firmware in the resume method. The userspace helper 
> > > can't be run because it's been frozen, so the firmware never gets loaded 
> > > and the call times out. The driver then fails to resume. While all this 
> > > is happening, the rest of the kernel is blocking on that resume method. 
> > > The firmware can be loaded once userspace has been started again, but by 
> > > that time the driver has given up.
> > 
> > Seems, that's just the broken synchronous firmware loading interface
> > with the useless timeout handling. The nowait version of the same loader
> > doesn't time out, and should not have that problem. The sync version
> > should be removed from the kernel, it just causes all sorts of problems
> > since it exists.
> > 
> > Userspace should handle the async request just fine when it comes back
> > running, regardless of the time it was submitted.
> 
> Okay, so the solution is to convert the drivers to use
> request_firmware_nowait() instead of request_firmware() in their .resume()
> routines.

You'll just get deadlock at different level (and more rare).

Imagine disk with its firmware on NFS and NFS with its firmware on
disk.

(Or maybe firmware loader doing find /, including both disk and
NFS). Just don't call request_firmware_* from .resume().


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