Re: wierd file perms

[Mark Lord]

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Oct 14 2007 09:27, Mark Lord wrote:
> > Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2007-10-13 22:40:23 +0530, vignesh babu <vigneshbabu@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I was surprised and did an ls -l on the files and guess what I found:
> > > >
> > > > total 0
> > > > ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? fcntl.c
> > > > ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? fifo.c
> > > > ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? filesystems.c
> > > > ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? file_table.c
> > > > ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? freevxfs
> > > >
> > > > So end result is that, Im not able to delete the files or change perms
> > > > or ownership even as root.
> > > Most probably, your filesystem is broken and needs a fsck.
> > No, this is perfectly normal behaviour, for when a directory
> > has READ permissions but not EXECUTE permissions.
>
> Er, close.
>
> 	16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > md a
> 	16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > touch a/b
> 	16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > chmod 644 a
> 	16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls -l a
> 	/bin/ls: cannot access a/b: Permission denied
> 	total 0
> 	-????????? ? ? ? ?            ? b
> 	16:02 ichi:/dev/shm > ls --version
> 	ls (GNU coreutils) 6.9
>
>
> There is a difference ..  "-?????????" vs "?---------".

That's just a version difference for GNU ls.
Here, with ls (GNU coreutils) 5.97 it gives this:

?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? a/b


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