Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.

From: Arjan van de Ven
Date: Thu Aug 14 2008 - 23:42:18 EST


On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:04:00 -0400
Theodore Tso <tytso@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 06:44:33PM -0700, david@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > could you do something like defining a namespace inside posix
> > attributes and then setting up a mechanism in the kernel to alert
> > if the attributes change (with the entire namespace getting cleared
> > if the file gets dirtied)?
>
> According to Eric Paris the clean/dirty state is only stored in
> memory. We could use the extended attribute interface as a way of not
> defining a new system call, or some other interface, but I'm not sure
> it's such a great match given that the extended attributes interface
> are designed for persistent data.
>
> I agree that doesn't actually work very well for the tracker use case,
> where you the clean/dirty bit to be persistent (in case the tracker is
> disabled due to the fact you are running on battery, for example, and
> then you reboot).
>

but we need a "give me all dirty files" solution, not a "is this file
dirty" solution.

I do not want a virus scanner to constantly have to poll the whole fs
for dirty files ;-)

--
If you want to reach me at my work email, use arjan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
For development, discussion and tips for power savings,
visit http://www.lesswatts.org
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/