Re: [RFC patch 0/4] TSC calibration improvements

From: Ingo Molnar
Date: Thu Sep 04 2008 - 12:01:13 EST



* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > i've added them to tip/x86/tsc and merged it into tip/master - if
> > there's test success we can merge it into x86/urgent as well and push it
> > into v2.6.27. Any objections to that merge route?
>
> I don't think it's quite that urgent, and wonder what the downside is
> of just changing the timeout to 10ms. On 32-bit x86, it was 30ms (I
> think) before the merge, so it sounds like 50ms was a bit excessive
> even before the whole "loop five times"/
>
> So _short_ term, I'd really prefer (a) looping just three times and
> (b) looping with a smaller timeout.

ok - sounds very good to me! It's quite late in the cycle so the more
commits we can delay to v2.6.28 the better IMHO.

> Long-term, I actually think even 10ms is actually a total waste. I'll
> post my trial "quick calibration" code that is more likely to fail
> under virtualization or SMM (or, indeed, perhaps even on things like
> TMTA CPU's that can have longer latencies due to translation), but
> that is really fast and knows very intimately when it succeeds. I just
> need to do slightly more testing.

ah - perhaps a dynamic statistical approach with an estimation of
worst-case calibration error (~= standard deviation) and a quality
threshold to reach? That could dramatically increase the number of
samples while also making it much faster in practice. Nifty!

Ingo
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