Re: [PATCH 2.6.29-rc7 2/2] x86: disallow DAC for MCP51 PCI bridge

From: Tejun Heo
Date: Wed Mar 04 2009 - 08:37:41 EST


Alan Cox wrote:
>> x86 is blacklisting DAC for everything VIA. :-)
>
> I'd assume that comes from published docs given VIA actually publish
> stuff if you ask nicely.

Dunno the history but it's from the time before VIA begins publishing.
It's probably worthwhile to refine the blacklisting.

>> * MCP51 is a very old chipset at this point (it's circa 2005). Not
>> many machine would be running with >4GB memory to begin with.
>>
>> * Given the above and scarcity of DAC on most end user machines
>> (nothing on MCP51 does DAC by default), lack of reports isn't too
>> surprising.
>>
>> * The board doesn't have a 64bit connector. It can't be dodgy
>> connector and sil24 is known to behave well with DAC. The failure
>> being specific to the particular machine doesn't seem likely.
>>
>> I'll ping nvidia about it but I think your bar is too high.
>
> I don't think wanting to see *two* examples is a high bar.

I don't think it's an easy combination. Circa 2005 desktop machine
with >4GB ram + DAC capable controller running Linux with owner who
will report seemingly random data corruption which will end up in the
correct hands and given that non-working DAC isn't too surprising of
the machines of that time and isn't very likely caused by random
component or connection failure, I think we'll be better off just
blacklisting it. That said, I admit I'm more trigger happy with
blacklists than some people (I think it's generally better to have
working systems than chasing performance on not-so-common cases).

Anyways, I pinged Peer Chen on the issue. Let's see whether he can
confirm it.

Thanks.

--
tejun
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