Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support

From: Avi Kivity
Date: Mon May 11 2009 - 14:04:19 EST


Anthony Liguori wrote:

It's a question of cost vs. benefit. It's clear the benefit is low (but that doesn't mean it's not worth having). The cost initially appeared to be very low, until the nested virtualization wrench was thrown into the works. Not that nested virtualization is a reality -- even on svm where it is implemented it is not yet production quality and is disabled by default.

Now nested virtualization is beginning to look interesting, with Windows 7's XP mode requiring virtualization extensions. Desktop virtualization is also something likely to use device assignment (though you probably won't assign a virtio device to the XP instance inside Windows 7).

Maybe we should revisit the mmio hypercall idea again, it might be workable if we find a way to let the guest know if it should use the hypercall or not for a given memory range.

mmio hypercall is nice because
- it falls back nicely to pure mmio
- it optimizes an existing slow path, not just new device models
- it has preexisting semantics, so we have less ABI to screw up
- for nested virtualization + device assignment, we can drop it and get a nice speed win (or rather, less speed loss)

If it's a PCI device, then we can also have an interrupt which we currently lack with vmcall-based hypercalls. This would give us guestcalls, upcalls, or whatever we've previously decided to call them.

Sorry, I totally failed to understand this. Please explain.

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