Re: [PATCH] Added CONFIG_VFAT_FS_DUALNAMES option

From: Pavel Machek
Date: Thu Jul 02 2009 - 18:03:28 EST


On Wed 2009-07-01 10:44:47, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 14:48 +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> > On 07/01/2009 01:50 PM, tridge@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > Hi Pavel,
> > >
> > > We did of course consider that, and the changes to the patch to
> > > implement collision avoidance are relatively simple. We didn't do it
> > > as it would weaken the legal basis behind the patch. I'll leave it to
> > > John Lanza (the LF patent attorney) to expand on that if you want more
> > > information.
> > >
> >
> > You completely lost me here. And I thought I did understand the patent
> > and the fix.
> >
> > what is the difference between.
> >
> > short_name = rand(sid);
> > and
> > short_name = sid++;
> >
> > Now if you would do
> > short_name = MD5(long_name);
> >
> > That I understand since short_name is some function of long_name
> > but if I'm just inventing the short_name out of my hat. In what legal
> > system does it matter what is my random function I use?
>
> We're sort of arguing moot technicalities here. If you look at the way
> the filename is constructed, given the constraints of a leading space
> and a NULL, the need for a NULL padded leading slash extension and the
> need to put control characters in the remaining bytes, we've only got 30
> bits to play with, we're never going to avoid collisions in a space of
> up to 31 bits. Technically, a random function is at least as good at
> collision avoidance as any deterministic solution ... and it's a lot
> easier to code.

You could be deterministic and restrict maximum number of entries in
directory?

You could do random function but check if duplicate exists, and return
-EPERM if it does?

Pavel

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