Re: [BUG] race of RCU vs NOHU

From: Paul E. McKenney
Date: Tue Aug 11 2009 - 10:52:35 EST


On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:56:53PM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:08:07 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:25:35PM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:29:57 -0700
> > > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:15:29PM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > > I analysed a dump of a hanging 2.6.30 system and found what I think is
> > > > > a bug of RCU vs NOHZ. There are a number of patches ontop of that
> > > > > kernel but they should be independent of the bug.
> > > > >
> > > > > The systems has 4 cpus and uses classic RCU. cpus #0, #2 and #3 woke up
> > > > > recently, cpu #1 has been sleeping for 5 minutes, but there is a pending
> > > > > rcu batch. The timer wheel for cpu #1 is empty, it will continue to
> > > > > sleep for NEXT_TIMER_MAX_DELTA ticks.
> > > >
> > > > Congratulations, Martin! You have exercised what to date has been a
> > > > theoretical bug identified last year by Manfred Spraul. The fix is to
> > > > switch from CONFIG_RCU_CLASSIC to CONFIG_RCU_TREE, which was added in
> > > > 2.6.29.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, if you need to work with an old kernel version, you might
> > > > still need a patch, perhaps for the various -stable versions. If so,
> > > > please let me know -- otherwise, I will focus forward on CONFIG_RCU_TREE
> > > > rather than backwards on CONFIG_RCU_CLASSIC.
> > >
> > > SLES11 is 2.6.27 and uses classic RCU. The not-so theoretical bug is
> > > present there and I think it needs to be fixed :-/
> >
> > I was afraid of that. ;-)
> >
> > Given that there are some other theoretical bugs in Classic RCU involving
> > interrupts and CONFIG_NO_HZ, would backporting CONFIG_TREE_RCU make more
> > sense than playing whack-a-mole on Classic RCU bugs?
>
> Fine with me but I don't know if SuSE/Novell is willing to accept such a
> big change for an existing distribution. I've put Ihno and Greg on Cc.

Good point! While they are thinking about the tradeoff between
whack-a-mole on Classic RCU and backporting CONFIG_TREE_RCU, if I was
to send you a patch backporting CONFIG_TREE_RCU, to exactly which kernel
version(s) should I backport it to?

Thanx, Paul
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