Re: [ RFC, PATCH - 1/2, v2 ] x86-microcode: refactor microcode output messages

From: Dmitry Adamushko
Date: Thu Nov 12 2009 - 10:48:42 EST


2009/11/12 Andreas Herrmann <herrmann.der.user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:06:36PM +0100, Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
>> 2009/11/12 Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> > 2009/11/12 Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx>:
>> >>
>> >> -tip testing found the following bug - there's a _long_ boot delay of
>> >> 58.6 seconds if the CPU family is not supported:
>> >>
>> >> [ 1.421761] calling microcode_init+0x0/0x137 @ 1
>> >> [ 1.426532] platform microcode: firmware: requesting amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin
>> >> [ 61.433126] microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin
>> >> [ 61.439682] microcode: CPU0: AMD CPU family 0xf not supported
>> >> [ 61.445441] microcode: CPU1: AMD CPU family 0xf not supported
>> >> [ 61.451273] Microcode Update Driver: v2.00 <tigran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Peter Oruba
>> >> [ 61.459116] initcall microcode_init+0x0/0x137 returned 0 after 58625622 usecs
>> >>
>> >> Where does this delay come from?
>> >
>> > My guess is that it's comming from
>> >
>> > static int loading_timeout = 60; /* In seconds */
>> >
>> > drivers/base/firmware_class.c
>> >
>> > given that you seem to have MICROCODE build in kernel, so this patch
>> > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/x86/linux-2.6-tip.git;a=commit;h=d1c84f79a6ba992dc01e312c44a21496303874d6
>> >
>> > will result in sending a request for a firmware image to user-space
>> > (unless that firmware image is also built-in into the kernel) and
>> > user-space has not started yet.
>>
>> btw., it doesn't make sense for request_firmware() to even try this if
>> the system_state != SYSTEM_RUNNING and current == 'init' (it'd perhaps
>> make some sense if it's been done in a context of another task -- like
>> in case of a parallel boot).
>
>> And perhaps it just makes sense for microcode to use request_firmware_nowait().
>
> That would be asynchronous.

What I had in mind is as follows:

request_firmware_nowait() sends an async request which can be
preserved (and this is an assumption -- I haven't really verified it
yet) until some latter stage when user-space has been started and is
capable of handling (cached) firmware-load requests. I may be (and
perhaps I'm) wrong with the above assumption and the solution is
either never build such a module into the kernel or only do it with
built-in firmware blobs.


-- Dmitry
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