Re: linux-next-20110923: warning kernel/rcutree.c:1833

[Frederic Weisbecker]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:30:10PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:49:53AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 06:25:01PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:04:21AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:48:04AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 03:06:25PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 02:26:37PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:08:26PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 03:24:09AM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974288] ------------[ cut here ]------------
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974308] WARNING: at /home/kas/git/public/linux-next/kernel/rcutree.c:1833 rcu_needs_cpu+0xff
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974316] Hardware name: HP EliteBook 8440p
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974321] Modules linked in: ip6table_filter ip6_tables ebtable_nat ebtables ipt_MASQUERADE iple_mangle xt_tcpudp iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables bridge stp llc rfcomm bnep acpi_cpufreq mperfckd fscache auth_rpcgss nfs_acl sunrpc ext2 loop kvm_intel kvm snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_codec_idtideodev media v4l2_compat_ioctl32 snd_seq bluetooth drm_kms_helper snd_timer tpm_infineon snd_seq_drt tpm_tis hp_accel intel_ips soundcore lis3lv02d tpm rfkill i2c_algo_bit snd_page_alloc i2c_core c16 sha256_generic aesni_intel cryptd aes_x86_64 aes_generic cbc dm_crypt dm_mod sg sr_mod sd_mod cd thermal_sys [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974517] Pid: 0, comm: kworker/0:1 Not tainted 3.1.0-rc7-next-20110923 #2
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974521] Call Trace:
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974525]  <IRQ>  [<ffffffff8104d72a>] warn_slowpath_common+0x7a/0xb0
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974540]  [<ffffffff8104d775>] warn_slowpath_null+0x15/0x20
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974546]  [<ffffffff810bffdf>] rcu_needs_cpu+0xff/0x110
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974555]  [<ffffffff8108396f>] tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick+0x13f/0x3d0
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974563]  [<ffffffff814329c0>] ? notifier_call_chain+0x70/0x70
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974571]  [<ffffffff81055622>] irq_exit+0xa2/0xd0
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974578]  [<ffffffff8101ee75>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x85/0x1c0
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974585]  [<ffffffff814329c0>] ? notifier_call_chain+0x70/0x70
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974592]  [<ffffffff81436e1e>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x6e/0x80
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974596]  <EOI>  [<ffffffff81297abd>] ? acpi_hw_read+0x4a/0x51
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974609]  [<ffffffff81087a07>] ? lock_acquire+0xa7/0x160
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974615]  [<ffffffff814329c0>] ? notifier_call_chain+0x70/0x70
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974622]  [<ffffffff81432a16>] __atomic_notifier_call_chain+0x56/0xb0
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974631]  [<ffffffff814329c0>] ? notifier_call_chain+0x70/0x70
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974642]  [<ffffffff8130ebb6>] ? cpuidle_idle_call+0x106/0x350
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974651]  [<ffffffff81432a81>] atomic_notifier_call_chain+0x11/0x20
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974661]  [<ffffffff81001233>] cpu_idle+0xe3/0x120
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974672]  [<ffffffff8141e34b>] start_secondary+0x1fd/0x204
> > > > > > > > > [   29.974681] ---[ end trace 6c1d44095a3bb7c5 ]---
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Do the following help?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 	https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/9/17/47
> > > > > > > > 	https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/9/17/45
> > > > > > > > 	https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/9/17/43
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes. Thanks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I believe that doesn't really fix the issue. But the warning is not
> > > > > > easy to trigger. You simply haven't hit it by chance after applying
> > > > > > the patches.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This happens when the idle notifier callchain is called in idle
> > > > > > and is interrupted in the middle. So we have called rcu_read_lock()
> > > > > > but haven't yet released with rcu_read_unlock(), and in the end
> > > > > > of the interrupt we call tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() -> rcu_needs_cpu()
> > > > > > which is illegal while in an rcu read side critical section.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > No idea how to solve that. Any use of RCU after the tick gets stopped
> > > > > > is concerned here. If it is really required that rcu_needs_cpu() can't
> > > > > > be called in an rcu read side critical sectionn then it's not going
> > > > > > to be easy to fix.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But I don't really understand that requirement. rcu_needs_cpu() simply
> > > > > > checks if we don't have callbacks to handle. So I don't understand how
> > > > > > read side is concerned. It's rather the write side.
> > > > > > The rule I can imagine instead is: don't call __call_rcu() once the tick is
> > > > > > stopped.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But I'm certainly missing something.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Paul?
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is required for RCU_FAST_NO_HZ, which checks to see whether the
> > > > > current CPU can accelerate the current grace period so as to enter
> > > > > dyntick-idle mode sooner than it would otherwise.  This takes effect
> > > > > in the situation where rcu_needs_cpu() sees that there are callbacks.
> > > > > It then notes a quiescent state (which is illegal in an RCU read-side
> > > > > critical section), calls force_quiescent_state(), and so on.  For this
> > > > > to work, the current CPU must be in an RCU read-side critical section.
> > > > 
> > > > You mean it must *not* be in an RCU read-side critical section (ie: in a
> > > > quiescent state)?
> > > 
> > > Yes, you are right, it must -not- be in an RCU read-side critical section.
> > > 
> > > > That assumption at least fails anytime in idle for the RCU
> > > > sched flavour given that preemption is disabled in the idle loop.
> > > 
> > > Except that the idle loop is a quiescent state.
> > > 
> > > > > If this cannot be made to work, another option is to call a new RCU
> > > > > function in the case where rcu_needs_cpu() returned false, but after
> > > > > the RCU read-side critical section has exited.
> > > > 
> > > > You mean when rcu_needs_cpu() returns true (when we have callbacks
> > > > enqueued)?
> > > 
> > > Yes.  I definitely am having problems with polarity this weekend.  :-/
> > > 
> > > > > This new RCU function
> > > > > could then attempt to rearrange RCU so as to allow the CPU to enter
> > > > > dyntick-idle mode more quickly.  It is more important for this to
> > > > > happen when the CPU is going idle than when it is executing a user
> > > > > process.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, is this doable?
> > > > 
> > > > At least not when we have RCU sched callbacks enqueued, given preemption
> > > > is disabled. But that sounds plausible in order to accelerate the switch
> > > > to dyntick-idle mode when we only have rcu and/or rcu bh callbacks.
> > > 
> > > Again, the idle loop is a quiescent state for RCU-sched.
> > 
> > We need to add an idle_cpu() check in rcu_read_lock_sched_held()
> > and rcu_read_lock_bh_held().
> 
> OK, but just to make sure...  For this to work, the idle notifiers would
> need to be invoked from outside of the idle task.  If the idle notifiers
> are instead invoked from idle-task context, then RCU needs to get more
> precise about what it thinks of as "idle", probably via a per-CPU variable
> that gets set and cleared within each idle loop.

But the idle notifiers run under RCU RCU, not RCU sched. Is the fact we are
in idle a quiescent state also for that flavor? Hmm, may be in the !PREEMPT
case? :-s

> 
> /me reminisces about the time when the definition of "idle" seemed so
> simple...  ;-)

;-)
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