Re: [PATCH v4] vmevent: Implement greater-than attribute state andone-shot mode

From: Minchan Kim
Date: Wed May 02 2012 - 03:42:05 EST


On 05/02/2012 03:57 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote:

> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I think hardest problem in low mem notification is how to define _lowmem situation_.
>> We all guys (server, desktop and embedded) should reach a conclusion on define lowmem situation
>> before progressing further implementation because each part can require different limits.
>> Hopefully, I want it.
>>
>> What is the best situation we can call it as "low memory"?
>
> Looking at real-world scenarios, it seems to be totally dependent on
> userspace policy.


That's why I insist on defining low memory state in user space, not kernel.

>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> As a matter of fact, if we can define it well, I think even we don't neead vmevent ABI.
>> In my opinion, it's not easy to generalize each use-cases so we can pass it to user space and
>> just export low attributes of vmstat in kernel by vmevent.
>> Userspace program can determine low mem situation well on his environment with other vmstats
>> when notification happens. Of course, it has a drawback that userspace couples kernel's vmstat
>> but at least I think that's why we need vmevent for triggering event when we start watching carefully.
>
> Please keep in mind that VM events is not only about "low memory"
> notification. The ABI might be useful for other kinds of VM events as
> well.


Fully agreed but we should prove why such event is useful in real scenario before adding more features.


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