Re: suspicious RCU usage in security/selinux/netnode.c

[Paul E. McKenney]

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:12:27AM -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:52:07 AM Eric Paris wrote:
> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> > 
> > <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:24:23AM -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> > >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> > >> 
> > >> <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:41:45AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > >> >> I just triggered this on Linus' current tree.
> > >> > 
> > >> > This is a bare:
> > >> > 
> > >> >        rcu_dereference(sel_netnode_hash[idx].list.prev)
> > >> > 
> > >> > which needs to be in an RCU read-side critical section.  Alternatively,
> > >> > the above should instead be something like:
> > >> > 
> > >> >        rcu_dereference_check(sel_netnode_hash[idx].list.prev,
> > >> >                              lockdep_is_held(&sel_netnode_lock));
> > >> 
> > >> Right, but that 'bare' dereference comes from
> > >> list_for_each_entry_rcu(), [from sel_netnode_sid_slow()] which I don't
> > >> see how to easily annotate with the lock.  Nor do I think it's within
> > >> my brain power (or my willingness to maintain such in the future) to
> > >> want to open code that logic.
> > > 
> > > You lost me on this one.  The lockdep splat called out the
> > > rcu_dereference() above, not a list_for_each_entry_rcu().  Besides which,
> > > the list_for_each_entry_rcu() does not do the checking -- at the time,
> > > I was not willing to explode the API that much.
> > 
> > Ohhhh, ok.  I assumed we needed to annotate list_for_each_entry_rcu()
> > under the spinlock as well as the bare dereference in the insert code.
> >  Ok, should be very easy to fix, although the list running code is
> > still going to be un-annotated in any way.  Thanks
> 
> Sorry, email filters went awry and I lost this thread until Eric pointed it 
> out to me ...
> 
> Despite a common first name, the other Paul is the RCU expert, no I 
> unfortunately.  Can someone explain the difference between 
> rcu_dereference_check() and rcu_dereference_protected()?  We use 
> rcu_dereference_protected() for a very similar reason in 
> selinux/netport.c:sel_netport_insert() and it seems like a better choice ... ?

Here you go:

o	rcu_dereference_check() is for code shared between readers and
	writers, so that it might be protected by either rcu_read_lock()
	or some lock.

o	rcu_dereference_protected() is for code that is only used by
	updaters and never by readers.  So rcu_dereference_protected()
	is (slightly) lighter weight than rcu_dereference_check()
	because it does not need to protect against concurrent
	updates.

							Thanx, Paul

> I'll throw a patch together but wanted to clear this up first.
> 
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