Re: [RFC PATCH 4/5] cpuidle/ppc: CPU goes tickless if there are noarch-specific constraints

From: Preeti U Murthy
Date: Thu Jul 25 2013 - 23:39:09 EST

Hi Paul,

On 07/26/2013 08:49 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 08:09:23AM +0530, Preeti U Murthy wrote:
>> Hi Frederic,
>> On 07/25/2013 07:00 PM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>>> Hi Preeti,
>>> I'm not exactly sure why you can't enter the broadcast CPU in dynticks idle mode.
>>> I read in the previous patch that's because in dynticks idle mode the broadcast
>>> CPU deactivates its lapic so it doesn't receive the IPI. But may be I misunderstood.
>>> Anyway that's not good for powersaving.
>> Let me elaborate. The CPUs in deep idle states have their lapics
>> deactivated. This means the next timer event which would typically have
>> been taken care of by a lapic firing at the appropriate moment does not
>> get taken care of in deep idle states, due to the lapic being switched off.
> I really don't think it's helpful to use the term "lapic" in
> connection with Power systems. There is nothing that is called a
> "lapic" in a Power machine. The nearest equivalent of the LAPIC on
> x86 machines is the ICP, the interrupt-controller presentation
> element, of which there is one per CPU thread.
> However, I don't believe the ICP gets disabled in deep sleep modes.
> What does get disabled is the "decrementer", which is a register that
> normally counts down (at 512MHz) and generates an exception when it is
> negative. The decrementer *is* part of the CPU core, unlike the ICP.
> That's why we can still get IPIs but not timer interrupts.
> Please reword your patch description to not use the term "lapic",
> which is not defined in the Power context and is therefore just
> causing confusion.

Noted. Thank you :) I will probably send out a fresh patchset with the
appropriate changelog to avoid this confusion ?
> Paul.
Preeti U murthy

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