RE: [PATCH v2 0/10] fs: Introduce FALLOC_FL_INSERT_RANGE for fallocate

From: Namjae Jeon
Date: Wed Jun 04 2014 - 00:57:51 EST

> On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 03:06:13PM +0200, LukÃÅ Czerner wrote:
> > > > So what will happen when there is not enough space when "inserting a
> > > > range" ? And how should user proceed from there ?
> > > If insert range fails with an ENOSPC error, user could use collapse
> > > range on the same range to remove the hole.
> > > And after freeing more space, he can again try inserting range.
> > > Ofcourse, this type of guidance should be properly documented in
> > > manpage. When updating fallocate(2) manpage, I will keep in mind to
> > > describe ENOSPC handling.
> >
> > Why collapse ? The hole is already there right ? Why not just use
> > fallocate to allocate the space for the hole. And that's my point
> > actually. Why not do it this way in the first place, because this is
> > really counterintuitive.
> It's worse than that. It's possible that the reason why you got the
> ENOSPC warning was because the operation to move the extents down
> required allocating a block, and it was *that* block allocation which
> failed. So it's not deterministic whether or not the file's extent
> mappings were modified after a ENOSPC error, and so it's not clear
> whether or not a collapse_range function will undo the range that had
> been inserted --- or whether it ends up deleting existing data blocks.
> In generally, you really want system calls to have all-or-nothing
> effects, where if the system call returns an error, the state of the
> file has not been changed. And for that reason, I agree with LukÃÅ
> that it is really a good idea to decouple moving the blocks down, and
> allocating space --- and to make sure that if there is any failure
> while inserting the range, the state of the file is not modified at all.
Okay, I will remove allocating space part in insert range patch.
But renaming flags as FALLOC_FL_INSERT_HOLE is needed to concent with
XFS people. Because Dave prefered to call it FALLOC_FL_INSERT_RANGE
so that it looks like it is related to collapse range.

Hi Dave.
Do you have any objection about renaming as insert hole ?

Thanks for opinions!

> Cheers,
> - Ted

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