Re: [rtc-linux] [PATCH] driver: rtc: pcf2127: use OFS flag to detect unreliable date and warn the user

From: Andrea Scian
Date: Mon Jun 15 2015 - 11:57:40 EST



Hi Alexandre,

On 12/06/2015 09:42, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
On 10/06/2015 at 17:21:57 +0200, Andrea Scian wrote :
I would return -EINVAL here because the result might still pass
rtc_valid_tm() but be outdated.
At first look I agree with you, but a bit later they say:

/* the clock can give out invalid datetime, but we cannot return
* -EINVAL otherwise hwclock will refuse to set the time on bootup.
*/

http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/drivers/rtc/rtc-pcf2127.c#n91

so they don't actually return -EINVAL even if rtc_valid_tm() fails.
WDYT? I'm not an RTC subsystem expert, so maybe I'm missing something..

This has been copy pasted from other drivers and this is simply not
true.

Thanks for point this out.
I'll split the patch to fix this for all PCF drivers (which have nearly all the same structure) and later add the OFS flag

If the comment above is correct, so we can't return -EINVAL, I will reset
the time to epoch, with something like

rtc_time64_to_tm((time64_t)0, tm);

Doing that is worse. You really want userspace to know that the time is
invalid instead of giving an incorrect value. This allow userspace to
actually choose its policy when the time is invalid. For example, use
epoch or any other later date that probabyl makes more sense for the
product.

Most of minimal RFS I saw reset the date to what's inside /etc/timestamp (which is updated in runlevel 6). However, this is OT here.

@@ -144,7 +153,7 @@ static int pcf2127_rtc_ioctl(struct device *dev,
switch (cmd) {
case RTC_VL_READ:
if (pcf2127->voltage_low)
- dev_info(dev, "low voltage detected, date/time is not reliable.\n");
+ dev_info(dev, "low voltage detected, check/replace battery\n");
I would also print a warning about OFS here.

I'll do.
Do you think is better to add another variable inside struct pcf2127 or is
better to re-read the RTC registers?
(for the former I have also to clear the variable inside
pcf2127_set_datetime(), for the latter I have to issue another read in a
function that, at the moment, does not read anything..)

I don't really care. But since one of them is already cached, it is
probably better to cache OFS. Maybe you could also use voltage_low as a
bit field which would allow userspace to make the difference between a
simple low voltage and the time loss condition.



I'll cache OFS too, in a different variable. Returning different values depending on OFS when querying about voltage low may mislead some application. Moreover I think that there's may be some cases when OFS is set and voltage low is not (e.g. when replacing battery with a brand new one).

I'll send the updated patch soon

Thanks for your comments/help,

--

Andrea SCIAN

DAVE Embedded Systems

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