Re: [PATCH 0/3] Make workingset detection logic memcg aware
From: Vladimir Davydov
Date: Sat Aug 08 2015 - 09:05:38 EST
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:38:16AM +0900, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> On 2015/08/06 17:59, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> >On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 10:34:58AM +0900, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> >>I wonder, rather than collecting more data, rough calculation can help the situation.
> >>for example,
> >> (refault_disatance calculated in zone) * memcg_reclaim_ratio < memcg's active list
> >>If one of per-zone calc or per-memcg calc returns true, refault should be true.
> >>memcg_reclaim_ratio is the percentage of scan in a memcg against in a zone.
> >This particular formula wouldn't work I'm afraid. If there are two
> >isolated cgroups issuing local reclaim on the same zone, the refault
> >distance needed for activation would be reduced by half for no apparent
> Hmm, you mean activation in memcg means activation in global LRU, and it's not a
> valid reason. Current implementation does have the same issue, right ?
> i.e. when a container has been hitting its limit for a while, and then, a file cache is
> pushed out but came back soon, it can be easily activated.
> I'd like to confirm what you want to do.
> 1) avoid activating a file cache when it was kicked out because of memcg's local limit.
No, that's not what I want. I want pages of the workingset to get
activated on refault no matter if they were evicted on global memory
pressure or due to hitting a memory cgroup limit.
> 2) maintain acitve/inactive ratio in memcg properly as global LRU does.
> 3) reclaim shadow entry at proper timing.
> All ? hmm. It seems that mixture of record of global memory pressure and of local memory
> pressure is just wrong.
What makes you think so? An example of misbehavior caused by this would
be nice to have.
> Now, the record is
> ããããeviction | node | zone | 2bit.
> How about changing this as
> 0 |eviction | node | zone | 2bit
> 1 |eviction | memcgid | 2bit
> Assume each memcg has an eviction counter, which ignoring node/zone.
> i.e. memcg local reclaim happens against memcg not against zone.
> At page-in,
> if (the 1st bit is 0)
> compare eviction counter with zone's counter and activate the page if needed.
> else if (the 1st bit is 1)
> compare eviction counter with the memcg (if exists)
Having a single counter per memcg won't scale with the number of NUMA
> if (current memcg == recorded memcg && eviction distance is okay)
> activate page.
> At page-out
> if (global memory pressure)
> record eviction id with using zone's counter.
> else if (memcg local memory pressure)
> record eviction id with memcg's counter.
I don't understand how this is supposed to work when a memory cgroup
experiences both local and global pressure simultaneously.
Also, what if a memory cgroup is protected by memory.low? Such a cgroup
may have all its pages in the active list, because it is never scanned.
This will affect the refault distance of other cgroups, making
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