Re: [PATCH RFC] ptr_ring: add ptr_ring_unconsume

From: Jason Wang
Date: Tue Apr 25 2017 - 20:12:23 EST




On 2017å04æ25æ 23:35, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:07:01PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:

On 2017å04æ24æ 20:00, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 07:54:18PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2017å04æ24æ 07:28, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:07:42AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
On 2017å04æ17æ 07:19, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
Applications that consume a batch of entries in one go
can benefit from ability to return some of them back
into the ring.

Add an API for that - assuming there's space. If there's no space
naturally we can't do this and have to drop entries, but this implies
ring is full so we'd likely drop some anyway.

Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin<mst@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Jason, in my mind the biggest issue with your batching patchset is the
backet drops on disconnect. This API will help avoid that in the common
case.
Ok, I will rebase the series on top of this. (Though I don't think we care
the packet loss).
E.g. I care - I often start sending packets to VM before it's
fully booted. Several vhost resets might follow.
Ok.

I would still prefer that we understand what's going on,
I try to reply in another thread, does it make sense?

and I would
like to know what's the smallest batch size that's still helpful,
Yes, I've replied in another thread, the result is:


no batching 1.88Mpps
RX_BATCH=1 1.93Mpps
RX_BATCH=4 2.11Mpps
RX_BATCH=16 2.14Mpps
RX_BATCH=64 2.25Mpps
RX_BATCH=256 2.18Mpps
Essentially 4 is enough, other stuf looks more like noise
to me. What about 2?
The numbers are pretty stable, so probably not noise. Retested on top of
batch zeroing:

no 1.97Mpps
1 2.09Mpps
2 2.11Mpps
4 2.16Mpps
8 2.19Mpps
16 2.21Mpps
32 2.25Mpps
64 2.30Mpps
128 2.21Mpps
256 2.21Mpps

64 performs best.

Thanks
OK but it might be e.g. a function of the ring size, host cache size or
whatever. As we don't really understand the why, if we just optimize for
your setup we risk regressions in others. 64 entries is a lot, it
increases the queue size noticeably. Could this be part of the effect?
Could you try changing the queue size to see what happens?
I increase tx_queue_len to 1100, but only see less than 1% improvement on
pps number (batch = 1) in my machine. If you care about the regression, we
probably can leave the choice to user through e.g module parameter. But I'm
afraid we have already had too much choices for them. Or I can test this
with different CPU types.

Thanks

I agree here. Let's keep it a constant. Testing on more machines would
be nice but not strictly required.

Ok, I will give a full benchmark (batch=1,4,64) on TCP stream to see how it will perform. Let's decide then.

I just dislike not understanding why
it helps because it means we can easily break it by mistake. So my only
request really is that you wrap access to this internal buffer in an
API. Let's see - I think we need

struct vhost_net_buf
vhost_net_buf_get_ptr
vhost_net_buf_get_size
vhost_net_buf_is_empty
vhost_net_buf_peek
vhost_net_buf_consume
vhost_net_buf_produce

Ok. Will do in next version.

Thanks.