Re: RFC: WMI Enhancements

From: Darren Hart
Date: Mon May 08 2017 - 11:29:18 EST


On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 06:25:08PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 5:51 PM, <Mario.Limonciello@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Darren Hart [mailto:dvhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 6:45 PM
> >> To: Limonciello, Mario <Mario_Limonciello@xxxxxxxx>
> >> Cc: pali.rohar@xxxxxxxxx; rjw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; luto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> >> len.brown@xxxxxxxxx; corentin.chary@xxxxxxxxx; luto@xxxxxxxxxx;
> >> andriy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; platform-
> >> driver-x86@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: RFC: WMI Enhancements
>
>
> > I meant that to say that at least for now Andy's wmi-mof driver should still be merged.
> > If something is going to build on top of this to do WBEM tools, they'll need that MOF
> > data once someone figures out how to nicely deconstruct it.
> >
>
> The thing I don't like about my own driver is that, as a WMI device
> driver, it can be loaded before the rest of the bus finishes probing.
> So user programs that are notified asynchronously that the wmi-mof
> driver is loaded and try to use future functionality (ioctl to issue a
> MOF-based method call?) might end up doing so before the rest of the
> bus is probed.
>
> This could be addressed by always exposing the wmi-mof device last
> (sort of -- it can be a module) or perhaps by moving MOF functionality
> to the core driver. Or maybe it's not really a problem.

Thanks Andy, I'll keep that in mind and see if I can come up with something to
address it while working on WMI this week.

The other problem with wmi-mof is that there will be no immediate open source
consumers of the interface, and none on the horizon. We can't even test it to
any meaningful degree on Linux. I suspect this will be met with stiff
resistance.

>
> Also, isn't there a way to ask Microsoft to document this? Are you
> supposed to "ask a question" on this forum, perhaps:
>
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg134029.aspx
>
> I'm guessing the Samba team knows how to do this, too.
>

It's a start.

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Darren Hart
VMware Open Source Technology Center