Re: [RFC PATCH v2] fw_lockdown: new micro LSM module to prevent loading unsigned firmware

From: Luis R. Rodriguez
Date: Mon Nov 13 2017 - 15:18:40 EST


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 03:11:12PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-11-13 at 20:51 +0100, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 02:36:47PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>
> > > Huh, I kind of lost you here.  What does "it" refer to in the above
> > > sentence?  IMA is in the kernel.  So, who does what checks in
> > > userspace?
> >
> > Sorry I thought some checks were done in userspace, given that is clarified,
> > what I meant is that say a device driver has a signing specification written
> > out in the driver, should/can IMA use that on the LSM to verify the detached
> > signature file for the firmware?
>
> IMA-appraisal currently supports file signatures as extended
> attributes.  Thiago Bauermann posted patches for including appended
> signature support to IMA-appraisal.  If someone is interested in
> adding detached signature support, they're welcome to do so.

Neat.

> > If it can be all done in kernel, it has me wondering if perhaps one option for
> > IMA might be to do only vetting for these types of checks, where the info and
> > description to appraise files is all in-kernel. IMA would not be required
> > for other files.
>
> We probably can defer this discussion until it is applicable.

Fair enough :)

Luis