Re: [RFC 09/10] x86/enter: Create macros to restrict/unrestrict Indirect Branch Speculation
From: David Woodhouse
Date: Sun Jan 21 2018 - 15:28:51 EST
On Sun, 2018-01-21 at 11:34 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> All of this is pure garbage.
> Is Intel really planning on making this shit architectural? Has
> anybody talked to them and told them they are f*cking insane?
> Please, any Intel engineers here - talk to your managers.Â
If the alternative was a two-decade product recall and giving everyone
free CPUs, I'm not sure it was entirely insane.
Certainly it's a nasty hack, but hey â the world was on fire and in the
end we didn't have to just turn the datacentres off and go back to goat
farming, so it's not all bad.
As a hack for existing CPUs, it's just about tolerable â as long as it
can die entirely by the next generation.
So the part is I think is odd is the IBRS_ALL feature, where a future
CPU will advertise "I am able to be not broken" and then you have to
set the IBRS bit once at boot time to *ask* it not to be broken. That
part is weird, because it ought to have been treated like the RDCL_NO
bit â just "you don't have to worry any more, it got better".
We do need the IBPB feature to complete the protection that retpoline
gives us â it's that or rebuild all of userspace with retpoline.
We'll also want to expose IBRS to VM guests, since Windows uses it.
I think we could probably live without the IBRS frobbing in our own
syscall/interrupt paths, as long as we're prepared to live with the
very hypothetical holes that still exist on Skylake. Because I like
IBRS more... no, let me rephrase... I hate IBRS less than I hate the
'deepstack' and other stuff that was being proposed to make Skylake
almost safe with retpoline.
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