Re: [RFC PATCH v3 03/10] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework
From: Quentin Perret
Date: Wed Jun 06 2018 - 11:30:01 EST
On Wednesday 06 Jun 2018 at 17:20:00 (+0200), Juri Lelli wrote:
> > > This brings me to another question. Let's say there are multiple users of
> > > the Energy Model in the system. Shouldn't the units of frequency and power
> > > not standardized, maybe Mhz and mW?
> > > The task scheduler doesn't care since it is only interested in power diffs
> > > but other user might do.
> > So the good thing about specifying units is that we can probably assume
> > ranges on the values. If the power is in mW, assuming that we're talking
> > about a single CPU, it'll probably fit in 16 bits. 65W/core should be
> > a reasonable upper-bound ?
> > But there are also vendors who might not be happy with disclosing absolute
> > values ... These are sometimes considered sensitive and only relative
> > numbers are discussed publicly. Now, you can also argue that we already
> > have units specified in IPA for ex, and that it doesn't really matter if
> > a driver "lies" about the real value, as long as the ratios are correct.
> > And I guess that anyone can do measurement on the hardware and get those
> > values anyway. So specifying a unit (mW) for the power is probably a
> > good idea.
> Mmm, I remember we fought quite a bit while getting capacity-dmpis-mhz
> binding accepted, and one of the musts was that the values were going to
> be normalized. So, normalized power values again maybe?
Hmmm, that's a very good point ... There should be no problems on the
scheduler side -- we're only interested in correct ratios. But I'm not
sure on the thermal side ... I will double check that.
Javi, Viresh, Eduardo: any thoughts about this ?