Re: [PATCH -next 0/2] fs/epoll: loosen irq safety when possible

From: Davidlohr Bueso
Date: Thu Sep 06 2018 - 16:55:29 EST


On Thu, 06 Sep 2018, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 01:05:59PM -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, Andrew Morton wrote:

>I'm surprised. Is spin_lock_irqsave() significantly more expensive
>than spin_lock_irq()? Relative to all the other stuff those functions
>are doing? If so, how come? Some architectural thing makes
>local_irq_save() much more costly than local_irq_disable()?

For example, if you compare x86 native_restore_fl() to xen_restore_fl(),
the cost of Xen is much higher.

Xen is a moot argument. IIRC the point is that POPF (as used by
*irqrestore()) is a very expensive operation because it changes all
flags and thus has very 'difficult' instruction dependencies, killing
the front end reorder and generating a giant bubble in the pipeline.

Similarly, I suppose PUSHF is an expensive instruction because it needs
all the flags 'stable' and thus needs to wait for a fair number of prior
instructions to retire before it can get on with it.

Combined the whole PUSHF + POPF is _far_ more expensive than STI + CLI,
because the latter only has dependencies on instructions that muck about
with IF -- not that many.

ack.

In fact it turns out that my Xen numbers for this patch were actually
native (popf), and not the xen_restore_fl() as it was using hvm and
not paravirt.

Thanks,
Davidlohr