Re: Problems with determining data presence by examining extents?

[Christoph Hellwig]

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:59:38PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> Another thread could be writing to the file at the same time, but not in the
> same block.  That's managed by netfs, most likely based on the pages and page
> flags attached to the netfs inode being cached in this particular file[*].
> 
> What I was more thinking of is that SEEK_HOLE might run past the block of
> interest and into a block that's currently being written and see a partially
> written block.

But that's not a problem given that you know where to search.

> 
> [*] For AFS, this is only true of regular files; dirs and symlinks are cached
>     as monoliths and are there entirely or not at all.
> 
> > > However, SEEK_HOLE doesn't help with the issue of the filesystem 'altering'
> > > the content of the file by adding or removing blocks of zeros.
> > 
> > As does any other method.  If you need that fine grained control you
> > need to track the information yourself.
> 
> So, basically, I can't.  Okay.  I was hoping it might be possible to add an
> ioctl or something to tell filesystems not to do that with particular files.

File systems usually pad zeroes where they have to, typically for
sub-blocksize writes.   Disabling this would break data integrity.