Re: [PATCH v12 0/2] UIO support for dfl devices

From: Xu Yilun
Date: Tue Mar 16 2021 - 01:15:56 EST


Hi Greg:

I listed below some answers from Moritz and Yilun from previous mails for
your question.

Do you have more comments?

Thanks in advance,
Yilun

On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 09:59:34AM +0800, Xu Yilun wrote:
> This patchset supports some dfl device drivers written in userspace.
>
> There are some Q&A about why UIO driver is needed in v11:
>
> >From Greg:
> Why are you saying that an ethernet driver should be using the UIO
> interface?
>
> And why can't you use the existing UIO drivers that bind to memory
> regions specified by firmware? Without an interrupt being used, why is
> UIO needed at all?
>
> >From Moritz:
> Essentially I see two options:
> - Have a DFL bus driver instantiate a platform driver (uio_pdrv_genirq)
> which I *think* you described above?
> - What this patch implements -- a UIO driver on the DFL bus
>
> These FPGA devices can on the fly change their contents and -- even if
> just for test -- being able to expose a bunch of registers via UIO can
> be extremely useful.
>
> Whether a device should expose registers or not should be up to the
> implemeneter of the FPGA design I think (policy). This patch (or the
> previous version) provides a mechanism to do so via DFL.
>
> This is similar in nature to uio_pdrv_genirq on a DT based platform, to
> expose the registers you instantiate the DT node.
>
> Re-implementing a new driver for each of these instances doesn't seem
> desirable and tying DFL as enumeration mechanism to UIO seems like a
> good compromise for enabling this kind of functionality.
>
> Note this is *not* an attempt to bypass the network stack or other
> existing subsystems.
>
> See the original message in:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fpga/YDvQ8aO8v3NhLKzx@xxxxxxxxxxx/T/#m66ba2c96848e3dea38d1a4f16dfea3cb291f7975
>
>
> >From Yilun:
> The ETH GROUP IP is not designed as the full functional ethernet
> controller. It is specially developed for the Intel N3000 NIC. Since it
> is an FPGA based card, it is designed for the users to runtime reload
> part of the MAC layer logic developed by themselves, while the ETH GROUP
> is another part of the MAC which is not expected to be reloaded by
> customers, but it provides some configurations for software to work with
> the user logic.
>
> So I category the feature as the devices that "designed for specific
> purposes and does not fit into one of the standard kernel subsystems".
> Some related description could be found in Patch #2, to illustrate why
> using UIO for some DFL devices.
>
> There are now UIO drivers for PCI or platform devices, but in this case
> we are going to export a DFL(Device Feature List) bus device to
> userspace, a DFL driver for UIO is needed to bind to it.
>
> See the original message in:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fpga/YDvQ8aO8v3NhLKzx@xxxxxxxxxxx/T/#m91b303fd61485644353fad1e1e9c11d528844684
>
>
> Xu Yilun (2):
> uio: uio_dfl: add userspace i/o driver for DFL bus
> Documentation: fpga: dfl: Add description for DFL UIO support
>
> Documentation/fpga/dfl.rst | 26 ++++++++++++++++++
> MAINTAINERS | 1 +
> drivers/uio/Kconfig | 17 ++++++++++++
> drivers/uio/Makefile | 1 +
> drivers/uio/uio_dfl.c | 66 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 5 files changed, 111 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 drivers/uio/uio_dfl.c
>
> --
> 2.7.4