Il 27/05/2021 21:57 Vladimir Zapolskiy <vz@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:
On 5/27/21 10:23 PM, Dario Binacchi wrote:
Il 24/05/2021 20:52 Vladimir Zapolskiy <vz@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:
On 5/24/21 8:28 PM, Dario Binacchi wrote:
Il 21/05/2021 08:44 Vladimir Zapolskiy <vz@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:
On 5/20/21 11:27 PM, Dario Binacchi wrote:
The MPUs of some architectures (e.g AM335x) must be in privileged
operating mode to write on the pinmux registers. In such cases, where
writes will not work from user space, now it can be done from the pins
user space has no connection to the problem you're trying to solve.
Please provide a reasonable rationale for adding a new interface, thank
you in advance.
debug file if the platform driver exports the pin_dbg_set() helper among
the registered operations.
Signed-off-by: Dario Binacchi <dariobin@xxxxxxxxx>
I strongly object against this new interface.
As Andy've already mentioned you have to operate with defined pin groups
and functions, and so far you create an interface with an option to
disasterous misusage, it shall be avoided, because there are better
What's the issue with a regular declaration of pin groups and functions
on your SoC? When it's done, you can operate on this level of abstraction,
there is absolutely no need to add the proposed low-level debug interface.
I quote Drew's words:
"I think it could be helpful to be able to set the conf_<module>_<pin>
registers directly through debugfs as I can imagine situations where it would
be useful for testing. It is a bit dangerous as the person using it has to be
careful not to change the wrong bits, but they would need to have debugfs mounted
and permissions to write to it."
"Bits 6:3 are related to what this subsystem would refer to as pin conf
such as slew, input enable and bias. Thus it might make sense to expose
something like a select-pinconf file to activate pin conf settings from
This is already present, please define all wanted configurations of pin
groups and pin group functions, then switch them in runtime. I see no
need of a coarse grained interface here...
From the emails exchanged I seem to have understood that there is no way to
reconfigure slew rate, pull up / down and other properties on the fly.
I think you still can do all the tasks mentioned above on the recent kernel,
I am not closely familiar with TI AM335x pinmux/pinconf controller, and if
needed I can look at the datasheet, but I can imagine that there are pins,
pin groups, and pin group functions controls. Board specific configuration
of pinmux is given in DTS, you can modify it with DT overlays for instance,
and selection of pin group functions in runtime is already possible for
users in runtime. What is missing from the picture, and why do you insist
on re-introduction of a much worse interface?
In the kernel version 4.1.6 that I am using on my custom board, I have fixed
the commit f07512e615dd ("pinctrl/pinconfig: add debug interface"). However,
this feature was later removed (https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1033755/).
Exactly, the feature is not needed.
The patches I've submitted implement some sort of devmem for pinmux. It too can
be used in a dangerous way, but it exists and it is used.
My objection is to giving a "red button" to users, even to users of debugfs.
If it's possible to keep the "dangerous goods" on developers' side only,
then this shall be preferable, I believe. And fortunately there is such
Anyway, the implementation may be wrong but it does highlight a feature that
can be useful in testing or prototyping boards but is not present in the kernel.
Can we then find a solution that is right for everyone?
Please see the method above.
In my understanding the problem you are trying to solve shall be defined
much more precised. Can you please elaborate on this part thoroughly?
I still can not grasp a too generic explanation from you, writing of
totally arbitrary data to controller registers looks senseless to me...
Assume you are giving a handle to users to write arbitrary data to arbitrary
I/O mem region, will it solve the problem for you? Of course yes.
But does it sound like a good and acceptable solution? Of course no.
Why? You need a better and more fine grained interface, namely write only
to pinmux I/O mem. Great, that's provided by your change, however another
important condition is still missing, a user shall write only valid data.
Thus a higher level of abstraction is wanted:
* writing data to I/O mem -- not good enough,
* writing data to pinmux/pinconf I/O mem -- better, but not good enough,
* writing *valid* data to pinmux/pinconf I/O mem -- that's right.
So, why not start from the feature you removed?
It wrote valid data to pinconf I/O mem.
Nope. The interface you've introduced allows to write invalid data, and
the choice between writing valid data and writing invalid data is given
to a user. Please remove this choice completely, technically it's doable.
I was not pointing to my patch, but to patch f07512e615dd ("pinctrl / pinconfig: add debug interface"
(which has been removed). If I am not missing something it wrote data to the
pinconf I/O mem in a more controlled way.
Could we use this patch as a starting point for a new implementation that
uses pin groups and pin group functions ?
The validity of data is defined by a developer, the abstraction name
has been mentioned multiple times, it's pin groups and pin group functions.
Unfortunately you continue to cling to the broken interface, while I see no
comments from you about asked to consider pin groups and pin group functions.
Could you kindly explain to me, with some practical examples, what kind of interface
would you implement ?