Re: OFFTOPIC: GTK and alternative GUIs and windowing systems in Linux
root (nuke@bayside.net)
Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:51:19 +0000 (GMT)
> > It seems to me their is a relious faction, that believe Free == GPL only.
> > I think there are 3 types of free software:
> > Public Domain, GPL, and Owned but open..
>
> There is more then that.. :)
>
> > I can't see how trolltech is any less free then GPL, as both have restictions to final
> > product. I can't take either peice of code an do ANYTHING I want with it.
> > The only REALLY free software in the former.
>
> Imagine this:
> KDE evolves, Linux evolves. KDE+Linux becomes serious compeataion to MS.
> Microsoft buys Troll tech, and removes the free licenceing.
> (which can change at any time, and even old existing copys are affected)
>
> All of a sudden, everyone using KDE is breaking the law. (unless they buy
> user copies of QT from MS, at whatever price MS wants)
>
> And the free people are scrambliing to remake QT (which has been said
> would be very hard)..
>
> This is much worse then with a GPLed piece of software.. Say MS 'buys'
> Linus Torvalds.. So WHAT? Alan Cox takes over maintaing the kernel.
>
> Same applies to Red Hat.
>
> > >> KDE is free and it works beautifully. GNOME is also free, but it is
> > >> presently vaporware. Yes, I have downloaded and compiled the latest
> > >> stuff, and it ain't too convincing. GNOME will probably succeed
> > >> eventually, not because it deserves to, but because the public is being
> > >> misinformed.
> >
> > GNOME is ugly. KDE rocks and I'm using the current beta now. It has already reached
> > "Can't live without it" status for me.
>
> BTW- Other kde advocates on here were calling gnome vaporware just a few
> messages back.. How is vaporware ugly?
>
> Gnome will support multiple window managers and there is early design
> work on extensive theme support in all apps..
>
> Rasterman (author of enlightenment and imlib) now works for redhat and is
> working on Gnome.. :)
>
> Ugly will def. not be a problem. (actually I like how the panel looks
> alot.. The WM needs work though... :) )
actually, it looks like gtk might have its own form of module-based
theming built in soon. the idea has been tossed aroudn in the gtk list,
and some good ideas were brought up. IMO, this is a serious advantage over
Qt. especially since i've already hacked Gtk to look *just like* Qt :) KDE
users won't have any right to say something is ugly when it can look just
like their own very system with very little effort
long live Gnome!
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