Re: Micro$oft

magnus@gol.com
Thu, 09 Apr 1998 14:16:28 +0100 (GMT+0100)


There are systems which you never have to switch off.
They can load new SW modules while running.
That applies to ALL the SW not just some part of it.
Even the "kernel".
It can handle almost all SW errors occuring without halting or reboting.
It points out the faulty SW and dumps data. And it always works!
This causes things to "hang" but they can be manually cleared, patched and
released again.
Patches can be applied while the program is running.

Debugging can always be turned on since it's supported on the HW level.
Of course with SW support when turned on.

It's a telephone switch and it's a bit bigger than a PC.

Maybe such ideas would be something for linux to adapt?
(Except the HW part maybe).
Compile a new kernel and swap in the new parts while running.
Does it sound nice?

BR Magnus Back

On 08-Apr-98 Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
>
>> Info:
>> Micro$oft is funding an Intel Development program to put Windoze in
>
> It's got to be sort of painful for intel in the embeded apps,
> palmtop/set-top box arenaa since the only real entry of there's in that
> arena is the i960rp
>
>> hardware.
>
> Sounds like windowsce
>
>> Targeted for "Laptops" and "Embeded" Systems, the 3-chip
>
> hp320lx (now 6months old) seems to have a chip count in the 2 dozen range
> counting the cpu, system memory, roms, lcd controller, pcmcia controller
> etc in the space occupied by a pentium II catridge.
>
>> "replacement" of the Personal Computer will not ever have to be
>> "booted",
>
> Windowsce machines never really shut down unless you either remove all the
> batteries, hit the reset button or run out of power.
>
>> Micro$oft claims. This will allow the machine to be turned
>> ON and OFF at will.
>
> be fairer probably to say that it never really turns off.
>
>> This information comes from an "untrusted" source who works at
>> Intel's plant in Folsom, California, so take it with a grain of
>> salt.
>>
>> However, if true, such a machine can't "boot" anything. FYI...
>
> If it ends up being anything like the ce scheme there will no doubt be a,
> mechanism for replacing the roms, loading patches into the unified
> memory/storage block of ram, and generally carrying on as usual.
>
> Sees like every attempt to make general purpose computers less functional
> (ie. thin clients, win terminals, java stations, insert acronym here)
> seems doomed to failure anyway it's either general purpose computer or it
> can join the pong box, the original nec ultralite, and the newton in the
> closet...
>
>> Cheers,
>> Dick Johnson
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>
> All in all it probably closer to the truth than fiction...
>
> joelja
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