ET Inc Technical Support

Anton Ivanov (arivanov@orbitel.bg)
Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:30:56 +0300


Here are some pieces from a discusion on Et-Inc boars. Please, everybody
note the technical support ET-users get.

> At 01:20 PM 4/9/98 +0300, Stefan Stefanov wrote:
> >dennis wrote:
> >
> >1) A person writing drivers that doesn't know that the running state of a
> point
> >to point interface is supposed to go down when the link is actualy down,
> should
> >not spoil the netspace with his scriblings.
>
> The IFF_UP flag is an administrative setting and has nothing to do with the
> link state. If you remove the UP flags, daemons like gated will remove the
> interface
> and all kinds of other negative things will happen.....as if the interface
> didn't exist.
> I tried to expain this, but I guess your english isn't too good.

Dennis, as I see you are a newbe. Do you know the difference in treating
IFF_UP in standard unix implementations on broadcast, nonbroadcast and
simplex
interfaces? Check the BSD and Linux code and learn a little bit... (Or
maybe you do not know the difference between these?)

I would not have pointed this if there was no mission critical software
relying on this flag. As of know all routing protocol daemons and snmp
managers
keep a look on this flag on P-t-P interfaces. So how the f... am I
supposed to use
your moronic board to run clients? No routing protocols and management
maybe?

I perfectly understand that you have personal ideas on how an interface
should behave, but as of now all of us interested in using your boards
do not
feel like rewriting gated, ucd-snmp and so on because you are a
stubborned ... ... ...

>
> >
> >2) The same is valid for a person that doesn't know that 'BSD drivers are
> >supposed to report their speed (even if the serial board cannot actualy
> >determine it, this sould be software configurable) - what the hell is
> >ifi_boudrate variable in the if_data structure is supposed to mean???
>
> Thats "baud" and why dont you ask the BSD folks why there is no way to
> set it? A sync board cannot determine its speed if externally clocked. If
> you're such an accomplished programmer than why don't you modify
> ifconfig to be able to set it? It has nothing to do with the driver.

Yes, so you report 0. Verrrrrrrrrrrry smart.... As a result your users
have to rewrite either UCD SNMP or tkined to see traffic stats.
Otherwise
the SNMP manager discards the interfaces... (Actually a good thing to
do,
especially through the window).

>
> >
> >3) Can a software written by a qualifyed programmer be unable to employ
> properly
> >the getopts function and have all of its paramaters positionally
> dependant. The
> >same is valid about
> >ET-INC's configuration files. It shall be a very good idea for Dennis to
> retake
> >his CS010 and
> >CS011 to recollect how to do this.
>
> Thats "CS-101 in english-speak". I dont understand what you're talking
> about, as
> usual.

CS010 and CS011 are the names of basic computer science courses at most
American Universities. Most english speaking people know this. Or maybe
you
do not know english...

> >
> >4. A person that has managed to screw up the BSD scheduler (and we
> consider it
> >to be more than idiotproof) to an extent that compiling more than 1M of
> source
> >with gcc causes a system crash is not supposed to write software at all.
> If you
> >are running his pronounced bandwidth manager on a FreeBSD try to rebuild the
> >kernel. In, btw do not be amased by the CPU usage during the rebuild. A
> simple w
> >will show the ET inc stock quotes instead of CPU usage.
>
> My machine doesnt crash..........You're "evaluation" is quiet faulty here,
> just like the
> rest of your analysis. You're probably overloading your CPU when you do a big
> compile, or you are using so much memory that there isn't enough for the
> bandwidth
> management queues. Anyone who does large-scale development on a busy router
> deserves such an experience.

Dennis get... lost....

I have tested it on three different mainboards... I would have tested
it on more but I decided that it will be cheaper for us to get a Cisco
with IOS 11.2 instead
of wasting our time.

>
> >The only overall comment is if you have an ET-INC throw it through the window
> >nearest to you. If a friend of yours has the intention to by an ET-INC let
> him
> >read Dennis answers to user's questions in this list.
>
> Im sorry stephan, but when a guy badgers me for a week about the if_baudrate
> parameter after I explain why its not set, a totally non-functional
> parameter btw,
> after a while it gets bothersome and I realize that you are more interested in
> bothering me than getting things done.

Once again Dennis bulshit...

I forgot about another BUG. If you try to reconfigure the gorgeous
ET-INC board without downing it first
BSD kernel panics. Typical Dennis moronity, isnt't it...

> hacking
> >the FreeBSD and NetBSD kernels for our needs on PC and other platforms.
> >
> >Stefan and Anton.
>
> AKA: The bulgarian fags.
>
> How can anyone support a banana like this? This is why I get so irritated.
>

Dennis, the people you called FAGs provide bandwidth for 40% of the
private Internet in the country...

--
Anton R. Ivanov
System Administrator,
Orbitel Ltd.

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