Re: Archive Access

Horst von Brand (woody@chunnel.oca.udayton.edu)
Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:52:37 -0400 (EDT)


>> Anyhow, people should be downloading patches where possible,
>> not entire kernel tree's. In fact, maybe only 1 in every 5 full
>> kernel trees should be made available to encourage people to be
>> more responsible with the bandwidth.

>The main archive site tends to stop responding when a stable
>kernel is released. Mirror sites are ineffective because they
>are not updated promptly and are hard to choose. Most people
>don't learn to use patches and bzip2 files. Some ideas:

Yes. I've noticed this. Linux users are VERY impatient when it comes to
new kernels... even the development kernels. I am one of the chanops in
EFnet #Linux. It is EXTREMELY annoying to have impatient lusers come into
the channel every 10 seconds asking:

a) WHERE DO I GET THE NEWEST KERNEL!!?!? (Even though it's in the /topic)
Not much we can do about these people but /kick them. ;)

b) ftp.kernel.org is too slow? What's another site that has the newest
kernel [that came out 2 hours ago]?

This one's my pet peeve.

>3. Mirror sites get a push feed. Mirror sites that do not respond
> to the push feed are considered dead and do not get redirects.
> The main site does not make files directly available until
> after it has tried to feed all mirror sites.

Like Mr. Cahalan wrote, wouldn't it make sense to have kernel.org push
the patches to a few mirrors before making it public? It would help ease
the load on kernel.org.

Also, wouldn't it be prudent to list some mirrors on a "too many anon
users" error? Especially a list of mirrors that have already been pushed.
Or, in the least, put a list of 5 good mirrors in kernel.org's finger...

>1. Files are made available in this order:
> patch.bz2 tarball.bz2 patch.gz tarball.gz
> There would be an intentional delay of 1 day between each file
> release for development kernels, and 3 days for stable kernels.
> This would strongly encourage use of the bzip2 patch files.
> Non-http access may get an additional delay, to support idea #2.

Excellent idea!!!

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(The ArchFool) http://woodynet.siscom.net/woody

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Inoperativi. If for the faith of this lie, so that it corresponds to be,
it does not ask you if the man puts in too much, because He saw it.

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