Re: [OT] Re: [PATCH] Magic SysRq key in Dvorak

kernel@whitestar.soark.net
Mon, 12 Oct 1998 03:47:48 -0400


On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:04:54PM -0400, Feuer wrote:
> Why does it seem that people involved in Linux use the Dvorak keyboard much much
> more than other people?  It's my favorite as well.  Is it pure intelligence, or an
> unwillingness to accept a poor solution?

Yes.

>
> Brion Vibber wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Martin Mares wrote:
> >
> > >    Hmmm, it seems to me this really doesn't belong to the kernel. People who
> > > are smart enough to be kernel hackers (and if they are not kernel hackers,
> > > they should not use SysRq since they don't understand what it means) are also
> > > expected to know that it doesn't respect the keymap and to remember the right
> > > mapping.
> >
> > So, kernel hackers are expected to accept unquestioningly what has been
> > placed before them? You have disillusioned me, Martin. I thought Linux was
> > about freedom - the freedom to use a different key mapping is part of
> > that. But apparently there is no freedom here, just more tyranny. I give
> > up, I'm going back to Windows where "free software" means borrowing
> > someone else's Office 97 CD. :(
> >
> > Just kidding! :)
> >
> > Let me ask you something: why have SysRq in the official kernel at all if
> > REAL kernel hackers can patch it into their kernels themselves? The
> > answer: *convenience*! The Magic SysRq Key is a useful tool for kernel
> > hackers, and it's a hell of a lot easier to have it sitting there ready to
> > be enabled than to have to patch it into every kernel.
> >
> > No, a Dvorak keymap for the Magic SysRq Key is not necessary, but it is
> > *convenient* for kernel hackers who, like me, use and love the Dvorak
> > layout. I'm certainly smart enough to use QWERTY if I have to (after all,
> > my keyboard is labeled in QWERTY, even if I forget it I have only to look
> > down) but I *prefer* to use Dvorak, just as I *prefer* to have the Magic
> > SysRq Key available for my use! Heck, I have to be *smarter* to use the
> > Dvorak keys since they're _not_ labeled and I need to remember them!
> >
> > Certainly SysRq is for kernel hackers only, but that's why it's in the
> > "Kernel Hacking" section of the configuration. Or do I misunderstand its
> > purpose?
> >
> > -- brion vibber (brion@pobox.com)
> >
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