Re: Odd memory problem

Riley Williams (rhw@MemAlpha.CX)
Mon, 10 May 1999 22:25:41 +0100 (GMT)


Hi Lou.

> I've encountered a really strange problem with RH 6.0 and the
> kernel it ships with (2.2.5), and I'm hoping someone here can
> shed some light on the matter.

> I've installed RH 6.0 onto one system without problem. Ran like
> a gazelle.

> I also tried installing this same CD onto one of my old test
> rigs, and run into massive problems. The box is a Midwest Micro
> 133MHz Pentium, 32MB of RAM (2 16MB EDO 72-pin SDROM modules),
> ATI Graphics Xpression/Mach 64 board, MS serial mouse, network
> board (but not used), no printer, SB16 sound board (but not
> used). In other words, this box is about as vanilla as hardware
> gets.

> The problem is that a large number of packages are corrupted
> upon installation, and they fail the md5 checksum test (rpm
> -Va), leading to an unusable system.

I recently had what appeared to be identical problems to yours, and it
turned out to be a flaky CD drive - as soon as I changed the CD drive,
the problems vanished and RH 6.0 installed as smooth as silk...

If you don't have a spare CD drive to check with, try doing an NFS or
FTP install across your network interface instead...

> I worked with Stephen Smoogen at RH on this, and his last note
> to me on the topic read:

>>> Ok I talked to Alan about this, and he thinks it is hardware
>>> problems with memory. The 2.2 kernels have completely different
>>> "access algorithms" which will show up bad RAM faster that would
>>> have worked in earlier versions of the kernel.

Hardware problems, probably, but not necessarily with memory. From a
diagnostics point of view, the best sequence to follow is:

1. User error.

2. Mechanical parts failure.

3. Electromechanical parts failure.

4. Electrical parts failure.

5. Electronic parts failure.

The CD drive falls under either (2) or (3) depending on whether it's
the focussing or decoding sections, but the RAM falls under (5), so is
much further down the list...

> I assume he's talking about Alan Cox here, although he didn't
> specify.

No idea, but I've cc'd this to him in case...

Best wishes from Riley.

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