Re: XFS and journalling filesystems

Jeff Merkey (jmerkey@timpanogas.com)
Sat, 22 May 1999 09:32:31 -0600

You should wait to see just how serious they really are about this, and how
much of it they are really going to give you. Another Unix File system
(yawn yawn yawn) with journalling (which means it will be **SLOW**). I
would vote for the ext3 project to continue. It appears they were reacting
to us. Here's a trace of their accesses to our website (obtained via
reverse subdomain trap) on the day we announmced open sourcing FENRIS and
giving it to you guys to have fun with (no strings attached). Not a
coincidence. Enjoy. It looks like a commercial ploy to "hijack" linux and
buoy up their legacy Irix products. To most big, old guard, commercial Unix
companies, Linux is the "kiss of death" to their bloated, overpriced, and
proprietary solutions. We are bringing Linux Novell's installed base of
8,000,000 NetWare Servers as a potential target market for Linux to
penetrate. How many Irix nodes are there? 40,000 maybe?

Jeff

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----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Thomas <mcai7et2@stud.umist.ac.uk>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 5:06 PM
Subject: XFS and journalling filesystems

> In light of the recent announcement by SGI (that the core of the XFS
> journalling filesystem will be opensourced this summer) what is "the
> panel's" view of the continuing devlopment of ext3/whatever the linux
> jfs will be called. Should we adopt XFS as the defacto replacement for
> ext2?
>
> Of course this is all dependant on SGI coming through and releasing the
> source under a kernel friendly licence agreement (GPL seems sensible to
> prevent plundering by Sun/HP et al.) but whatever the outcome, the open
> sourcing of commercial technologies (opposed to applications), whatever
> they are is cool.
>
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