Re: [PATCH v1 02/10] mm/khugepaged: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check

[Lance Yang]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 11:00:26AM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
>On 27 Mar 2026, at 10:31, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 10:26:53PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/27/26 10:12 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 09:45:03PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/27/26 8:02 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 05:44:49PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/27/26 9:42 AM, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>>>>> collapse_file() requires FSes supporting large folio with at least
>>>>>>>> PMD_ORDER, so replace the READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check with that. shmem with
>>>>>>>> huge option turned on also sets large folio order on mapping, so the check
>>>>>>>> also applies to shmem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While at it, replace VM_BUG_ON with returning failure values.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Zi Yan <ziy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>     mm/khugepaged.c | 7 +++++--
>>>>>>>>     1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>>>>>> index d06d84219e1b..45b12ffb1550 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -1899,8 +1899,11 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_file(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr,
>>>>>>>>     	int nr_none = 0;
>>>>>>>>     	bool is_shmem = shmem_file(file);
>>>>>>>> -	VM_BUG_ON(!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS) && !is_shmem);
>>>>>>>> -	VM_BUG_ON(start & (HPAGE_PMD_NR - 1));
>>>>>>>> +	/* "huge" shmem sets mapping folio order and passes the check below */
>>>>>>>> +	if (mapping_max_folio_order(mapping) < PMD_ORDER)
>>>>>>>> +		return SCAN_FAIL;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not true for anonymous shmem, since its large order allocation logic
>>>>>>> is similar to anonymous memory. That means it will not call
>>>>>>> mapping_set_large_folios() for anonymous shmem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I think the check should be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if (!is_shmem && mapping_max_folio_order(mapping) < PMD_ORDER)
>>>>>>>        return SCAN_FAIL;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm but in shmem_init() we have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #ifdef CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
>>>>>> 	if (has_transparent_hugepage() && shmem_huge > SHMEM_HUGE_DENY)
>>>>>> 		SHMEM_SB(shm_mnt->mnt_sb)->huge = shmem_huge;
>>>>>> 	else
>>>>>> 		shmem_huge = SHMEM_HUGE_NEVER; /* just in case it was patched */
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	/*
>>>>>> 	 * Default to setting PMD-sized THP to inherit the global setting and
>>>>>> 	 * disable all other multi-size THPs.
>>>>>> 	 */
>>>>>> 	if (!shmem_orders_configured)
>>>>>> 		huge_shmem_orders_inherit = BIT(HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>>>>>> #endif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And shm_mnt->mnt_sb is the superblock used for anon shmem. Also
>>>>>> shmem_enabled_store() updates that if necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we're still fine right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __shmem_file_setup() (used for anon shmem) calls shmem_get_inode() ->
>>>>>> __shmem_get_inode() which has:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	if (sbinfo->huge)
>>>>>> 		mapping_set_large_folios(inode->i_mapping);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shared for both anon shmem and tmpfs-style shmem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I think it's fine as-is.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid not. Sorry, I should have been clearer.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, anonymous shmem large order allocation is dynamically controlled via
>>>>> the global interface (/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/shmem_enabled) and
>>>>> the mTHP interfaces
>>>>> (/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-*kB/shmem_enabled).
>>>>>
>>>>> This means that during anonymous shmem initialization, these interfaces
>>>>> might be set to 'never'. so it will not call mapping_set_large_folios()
>>>>> because sbinfo->huge is 'SHMEM_HUGE_NEVER'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if shmem large order allocation is subsequently enabled via the
>>>>> interfaces, __shmem_file_setup -> mapping_set_large_folios() is not called
>>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> I see your point, oh this is all a bit of a mess...
>>>>
>>>> It feels like entirely the wrong abstraction anyway, since at best you're
>>>> getting a global 'is enabled'.
>>>>
>>>> I guess what happened before was we'd never call into this with ! r/o thp for fs
>>>> && ! is_shmem.
>>>
>>> Right.
>>>
>>>> But now we are allowing it, but should STILL be gating on !is_shmem so yeah your
>>>> suggestion is correct I think actualyl.
>>>>
>>>> I do hate:
>>>>
>>>> 	if (!is_shmem && mapping_max_folio_order(mapping) < PMD_ORDER)
>>>>
>>>> As a bit of code though. It's horrible.
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>>> Let's abstract that...
>>>>
>>>> It'd be nice if we could find a way to clean things up in the lead up to changes
>>>> in series like this instead of sticking with the mess, but I guess since it
>>>> mostly removes stuff that's ok for now.
>>>
>>> I think this check can be removed from this patch.
>>>
>>> During the khugepaged's scan, it will call thp_vma_allowable_order() to
>>> check if the VMA is allowed to collapse into a PMD.
>>>
>>> Specifically, within the call chain thp_vma_allowable_order() ->
>>> __thp_vma_allowable_orders(), shmem is checked via
>>> shmem_allowable_huge_orders(), while other FSes are checked via
>>> file_thp_enabled().
>
>But for madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) case, IIRC, it ignores shmem huge config
>and can perform collapse anyway. This means without !is_shmem the check
>will break madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE). Let me know if I get it wrong, since

Right. That will break MADV_COLLAPSE, IIUC.

For MADV_COLLAPSE on anonymous shmem, eligibility is determined by the
TVA_FORCED_COLLAPSE path via shmem_allowable_huge_orders(), not by
whether the inode mapping got mapping_set_large_folios() at creation
time.

Using mmap(MAP_SHARED | MAP_ANONYMOUS):
- create time: shmem_enabled=never, hugepages-2048kB/shmem_enabled=never
- collapse time: shmem_enabled=never, hugepages-2048kB/shmem_enabled=always

With the !is_shmem guard, collapse succeeds. Without it, the same setup
fails with -EINVAL.

Thanks,
Lance

>I was in that TVA_FORCED_COLLAPSE email thread but does not remember
>everything there.
>
>
>>
>> It sucks not to have an assert. Maybe in that case make it a
>> VM_WARN_ON_ONCE().
>
>Will do that as I replied to David already.
>
>>
>> I hate that you're left tracing things back like that...
>>
>>>
>>> For those other filesystems, Patch 5 has already added the following check,
>>> which I think is sufficient to filter out those FSes that do not support
>>> large folios:
>>>
>>> if (mapping_max_folio_order(inode->i_mapping) < PMD_ORDER)
>>> 	return false;
>>
>> 2 < 5, we won't tolerate bisection hazards.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Anonymous shmem behaves similarly to anonymous pages: it is controlled by
>>>>> the 'shmem_enabled' interfaces and uses shmem_allowable_huge_orders() to
>>>>> check for allowed large orders, rather than relying on
>>>>> mapping_max_folio_order().
>>>>>
>>>>> The mapping_max_folio_order() is intended to control large page allocation
>>>>> only for tmpfs mounts. Therefore, I find the current code confusing and
>>>>> think it needs to be fixed:
>>>>>
>>>>> /* Don't consider 'deny' for emergencies and 'force' for testing */
>>>>> if (sb != shm_mnt->mnt_sb && sbinfo->huge)
>>>>>         mapping_set_large_folios(inode->i_mapping);
>>>>
>
>Hi Baolin,
>
>Do you want to send a fix for this?
>
>Also I wonder how I can distinguish between anonymous shmem code and tmpfs code.
>I thought they are the same thing except that they have different user interface,
>but it seems that I was wrong.
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Yan, Zi
>
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