Re: [PATCH v9 02/10] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs

[Pawan Gupta]

On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 05:12:06PM +0000, Jon Kohler wrote:
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> > On Apr 7, 2026, at 11:46 AM, Jim Mattson <jmattson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2026 at 9:40 AM Pawan Gupta
> > <pawan.kumar.gupta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> On Mon, Apr 06, 2026 at 07:23:25AM -0700, Jim Mattson wrote:
> >>> Yes, but the guest needs a way to determine whether the hypervisor
> >>> will do what's necessary to make the short sequence effective. And, in
> >>> particular, no KVM hypervisor today is prepared to do that.
> >>> 
> >>> When running under a hypervisor, without BHI_CTRL and without any
> >>> evidence to the contrary, the guest must assume that the longer
> >>> sequence is necessary. At the very least, we need a CPUID or MSR bit
> >>> that says, "the short BHB clearing sequence is adequate for this
> >>> vCPU."
> >> 
> >> After discussing this internally, the consensus is that the best path
> >> forward is to add virtual SPEC_CTRL support to KVM, which also aligns with
> >> Intel's guidance. In the long term, virtual SPEC_CTRL can benefit future
> >> mitigations as well. As with many other mitigations (e.g. microcode), the
> >> guest would rely on the host to enforce the appropriate protections.
> 
> Would we have to wait for virtual SPEC_CTRL to get this optimization?

The optimization works with or without virtual-SPEC_CTRL.

> Or would that be a future enhancement to make this more prescriptive?

Virtual-SPEC_CTRL enables safer guest migrations between pre and post Alder
Lake CPUs w.r.t. Native BHI mitigation. It is not related to VMSCAPE.