Re: [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling

[Chen, Yu C]

On 4/16/2026 8:27 AM, Qais Yousef wrote:
> On 04/01/26 14:52, Tim Chen wrote:

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> I posted schedqos announcement yesterday, which I think (hope) would be the
> right way to address these concerns about tagging tasks.
>
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260415000910.2h5misvwc45bdumu@airbuntu/

Thanks, I'll take a look at this.

> It would be trivial to add experimental branch to add new QoS flavour to say
> NUMA_SENSITIVE etc. I am still trying to think of a generic description to
> address a number of use cases (see Execution Profiles in README.md), not just
> this particular numa sensitive one, but the experimental branch should help
> iterate and drive the kernel development for wake up path + push lb instead of
> using load balance which I really doubt will work well in practice since this
> is slow to react, and you're relying on overcommitting the system by default by
> making every task of every process data dependent and require it to be
> co-located. 

I am not certain which strategy is preferable, as it largely depends
on the use case and workload. We intend to evaluate push-based load
balancing on top of the existing lb-based cache-aware placement logic.

> I think in practice admins will care about specific applications to
> be kept within a single LLC, and if they are willing to spend the effort, they
> can tag specific tasks of a specific application.

It seems to me that there are multiple use cases. In one scenario,
the administrator (including daemons) is responsible for tagging
workloads. In another, users prefer the OS to handle automatic
placement without any userspace involvement.

> Also QoS IMHO should be viewed as a scarce resource. For best effort delivery
> (which is the best we can do in reality, this is not hard real time system), it
> is easier to provide good best effort when the average noise level is low, ie:
> few tasks are required to be kept within the same LLC. If we overcommit often,
> we will crumble often. So IMHO the key is to delegate to userspace to tag, and

I suppose there are two scenarios. The first is enabling/disabling 
aggregation
for a group of tasks, and the second is task tagging. For the first 
scenario,
this can be applied either process-wide or cgroup-wide by providing a flag,
without requiring users to explicitly tag individual tasks. The second 
scenario
 is an enhancement to support fine-grained control over a specific 
task. If
schedqos only supports scenario2, the user has to tag every task to support
scenario1.

thanks,
Chenyu