Re: [PATCH v2 00/15] accel/qda: Qualcomm DSP Accelerator driver

[Ekansh Gupta]

On 20-08-2026 20:17, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2026 at 11:15 PM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On 19/08/2026 17:48, Rob Clark wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2026 at 8:27 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> The rule of usptream development is that we do not accept duplicated
>>>> code, just because a vendor wants to write something new. This is
>>>> basically the concept applied all over the drivers tree, where we pushed
>>>> back against all sorts of duplications all over the vendors.
>>>>
>>>> What I miss in this thread is why would there be any exception here. We
>>>> do not grant exceptions from standard practices on "I want" reasons.
>>>
>>> I agree that we should not have duplicated drivers just for vendor
>>> lolz.  But when it comes to adopting common frameworks and integrating
>>> better into the ecosystem, this doesn't seem like something we should
>>> actively discourage.  I don't think this is a case of vendor lolz, but
>>
>> No one discourages it. Following standard Linux kernel practices and
>> requirements is not discouraging, do not twist the narrative here.
>> Again, it is standard upstream review telling that we do not duplicate
>> drivers. Ever, unless there is serious exception needed.
> 
> I wasn't trying to twist the narrative, just trying to come up with a
> path forward that isn't "no" or "improve existing driver", since
> neither of those gets us towards a future using common frameworks.
> 
>> I asked why there should be an exception granted? Is the reason for
>> exception following:
>> "We want to adopt common framework"
>> ?
> 
> Possibly?  But I don't think we want two drivers to be any sort of
> long term solution.  (Ie. as long as venus/iris have co-exist.)
> 
>>
>>> rather reacting to drm/accel emerging as the standard framework for
>>> this sort of driver.
>>>
>>> So how do we get from here to there?
>>
>> What is wrong with my proposal?
> 
> Maybe I missed something, my understanding was your proposal was
> "Grow/replace/improve existing driver instead of coming with a
> duplicate"..  grow or improve doesn't move us toward common
> frameworks.  Maybe "replace" is a valid option.  If there is something
> I missed, then I apologize.
> 
> Options I can think of are:
> 
> 1. Hardware cutoff.. new hw gets new driver, existing hw gets existing
>    driver
> 2. Backwards compat chardev registered by new driver, providing existing
>    UABI.  I'm not 100% sure about the feasibility/drawbacks of this..
>    AFAIU the fastrpc folks where planning a backwards compat layer in
>    userspace, so maybe it is possible.
> 3. exception?
> 
> I'd like to know what the feasibility of #2 is, since at a high level
> that sounds like the best option.  Possibly limit exposure of legacy
> UABI to existing hw so we don't get into a place of needing to extend
> the legacy UABI for new hw?
> 
> But #1 sounds like a non-controversial place to start regardless.
> Possibly with #2 coming as followup and necessary step before eventual
> migration to new driver for existing hw?
> 
> Even if we start with #2, how do we handle first-merge-window
> bugs/regressions without reverting addition of new driver and removal
> of old?  It seems like we'd need a window of a couple release cycles
> where both drivers exist?
> 
> Maybe others have other/better options in mind?
To all, I'm seeking on the approach I should follow to go ahead here. I
can work on implementing #1(as per Rob's list) with hw specific
compatible for v4 if it's acceptable.

#2(compat driver) is something that we are still exploring as we
couldn't find any standard way to achieve it. We might start a separate
discussion for that once we have few possible designs with us.

Happy to take any other suggestion also.>
> BR,
> -R