Re: Path forward for Virtualized Swap?

From: Kairui Song

Date: Fri Sep 11 2026 - 12:57:15 EST


On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 12:23 AM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 3:57 AM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/8/26 18:45, Nhat Pham wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2026 at 4:30 AM David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 9/4/26 23:14, Nhat Pham wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >>> To Kairui, Johannes, Yosry, Chris, David, Andrew, and other (z)swap folks -
> > >>> I need some help here.
> > >>
> > >> I'll mostly ignore swap-related stuff because (a) -EBUSY and (b) we have quite
> > >> some swap experts around :)
> > >>
> > >> Reading below, I do wonder if the swap subsystem needs some more coordination
> > >> and collaboration?
> > >>
> > >> For example, maybe having bi-weekly/monthly meetings to get everybody aligned
> > >> and uptodate could be something reasonable?
> > >>
> > >> This approach has proven fairly helpful in areas where (1) multiple companies
> > >> are involved (2) many concurrent development is happening, and (3) people have
> > >> different priorities and requirements.
> > >>
> > >> Is there already something like that to organize development? Should we get
> > >> started with that?
> > >
> > > Hi David!
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your suggestions :) More collaboration and communication
> > > is definitely needed here. Conference is a good place for this, but
> > > it's not something we can do very frequently, and many folks could not
> > > attend (visa issues, etc.).
> >
> > Right, and conferences usually don't have the capacity to squeeze too many
> > swap-related topics in, so it would have to be side discussions or BOFs.
> >
> > >
> > > A bi-weekly/monthly series of meetings sound very appealing. Swap
> > > contributors are very spread out (China, NorAm, Europe, etc.), so
> > > coordination will be tricky, but let us figure out something.
> >
> > Yes, that's an issue. I'd suggest swap maintainers take care of that if they
> > agree. I could try as well, but it's rather tricky right now on my end ...
> >
> > As an alternative, we could also use on/two/ ... slots in the bi-weekly MM
> > alignment session to talk about swap. (I'd be happy to learn more about all this
> > as well)
>
> That's awesome! Thanks for the offer David - I think MM alignment is at 9AM
> PDT Wednesday, usually right? That works for me of course, but Baoquan
> and Kairui (and other swap folks) - would this time be convenient for
> you?
>

Thanks for setting this up!

Is 9AM PDT fixed, or can it be adjusted? 9AM PDT is midnight for the
UTC+8 folks.

The time is still fine for me, though, I tend to stay up quite late
anyway ;) so that time works fine on my end if the slot is fixed.

Is there a calendar invite or something, please send me one, I'm happy
to do a swap sync discussion there.